A revolution in thought

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You have a sick mind Chuck! You will not win because you are deliberately misinterpreting what is written. You are the biggest fraud ever.

Thou shall not blame, peacegirl. Thou shall not blame.

[Vivisectus]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You have a sick mind Chuck! You will not win because you are deliberately misinterpreting what is written. You are the biggest fraud ever.

And he defrauds people of their hard earned rage-outs, too!

[ChuckF]

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Thou shall not blame, peacegirl. Thou shall not blame.

Your confusion continues...I will continue to blame you Chuck because you are blameworthy! You have no conception of this knowledge whatsoever.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I will continue to blame you Chuck

We know, peacegirl; you blame me for the undeniable, mathematical reality that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text (compelled of my own free will and by my nature, just as 3 is to 6 as 4 is to 8), and thereby reject that magic elixir (call it what you will - corollary, slide rule, or basic principle) extended to mankind by the Authentic Text, and thereby decline to transmute the baser metals of your blameful nature into the pure gold of the Golden Age.



You have that right of way, peacegirl; but it is a hurt to the Authentic Text.

All of this you do to hawk your Corrupted Text. Your blame infests this thread like a virus, peacegirl.

[Vivisectus]

How can you blame ChuckF for choosing the path of greater satisfaction, as he is compelled to do of his own free will?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

How can you blame ChuckF for choosing the path of greater satisfaction, as he is compelled to do of his own free will?

I know the guy can't help but spread lies, but I, in turn, can't help but retaliate, which is a normal reaction.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I know the guy can't help the lies he is spewing but I, in return, can't help but retaliate which is a normal reaction when you've been hurt.

peacegirl, here again you reject the Authentic Text with your Corruptions.

The magic elixir (call it what you will - corollary, slide rule, or basic principle) extended to mankind by the Authentic Text is not "thou shall not blame, unless it's a normal reaction when you've been hurt!" This is a pure Corruption that you have just made up in order to hawk your $41.00 Corrupted Text! No, the Authentic Text is clear and unambiguous, undeniable and mathematical, in a manner that brooks no opposition: THOU SHALL NOT BLAME.



peacegirl, your rejection of the Authentic Text and your Corrupted Text are of course a hurt to the Authentic Text, but it is not in my nature as True Steward of the Authentic Text to blame you, because I allow for the source.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

We know, peacegirl; you blame me for the undeniable, mathematical reality that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text (compelled of my own free will and by my nature, just as 3 is to 6 as 4 is to 8), and thereby reject that magic elixir (call it what you will - corollary, slide rule, or basic principle) extended to mankind by the Authentic Text, and thereby decline to transmute the baser metals of your blameful nature into the pure gold of the Golden Age.



You have that right of way, peacegirl; but it is a hurt to the Authentic Text.

All of this you do to hawk your Corrupted Text. Your blame infests this thread like a virus, peacegirl.

Yes Chuck, that is true under the changed conditions, which you know nothing about because you're a fraud.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Yes Chuck, that is true under the changed conditions,

peacegirl, it is good that you recognize that that I am correct under the changed conditions, but I also know, as True Steward of the Authentic Text, that all of these things are true now and under the changed conditions!

You blame me for the undeniable, mathematical reality that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text (compelled of my own free will and by my nature, just as 3 is to 6 as 4 is to 8).

You reject that magic elixir (call it what you will - corollary, slide rule, or basic principle) extended to mankind by the Authentic Text.

You decline to transmute the baser metals of your blameful nature into the pure gold of the Golden Age.

You have that right of way, peacegirl; but it is a hurt to the Authentic Text.

You do this to hawk your Corrupted Text.

Your blame infests this thread like a virus.

This is true now and under the changed conditions, peacegirl.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You have no understanding of the chapter on marriage. You are deliberately misleading the listeners.

Are you saying that chocolate puckered starfish is not a sexual organ?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

peacegirl, it is good that you recognize that that I am correct under the changed conditions, but I also know, as True Steward of the Authentic Text, that all of these things are true now and under the changed conditions!

You blame me for the undeniable, mathematical reality that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text (compelled of my own free will and by my nature, just as 3 is to 6 as 4 is to 8).

You reject that magic elixir (call it what you will - corollary, slide rule, or basic principle) extended to mankind by the Authentic Text.

You decline to transmute the baser metals of your blameful nature into the pure gold of the Golden Age.

You have that right of way, peacegirl; but it is a hurt to the Authentic Text.

You do this to hawk your Corrupted Text.

Your blame infests this thread like a virus.

This is true now and under the changed conditions, peacegirl.

I will blame you as long as you give me justification. You have misconstrued the text to make it appear what it is not and are trying to convince the listeners that this discovery is not valid. What is the discovery Chuck? You can't answer because you are a fraud!

[peacegirl]

This excerpt is for anyone who is interested in the discovery and isn't caught up in Chuck's tripe.

In reality we are all the result of forces completely beyond our
control. As we extend the corollary, Thou Shall Not Blame, we are
able to see for the very first time how it is now within our power to
prevent those things for which blame and punishment came into
existence. Although Spinoza did not understand the full significance
of this enigmatic corollary, he accepted it by rejecting the opposite
principle of an eye for an eye by refusing to defend himself against his
sister or blame her for cheating him out of his inheritance. Neither
he nor his sister had a free choice because the one was willing to cheat
to get what she wanted while he was willing to be cheated rather than
hold her responsible.

Spinoza made matters worse for himself
financially, but at that moment of time he had no free choice because
it gave him greater satisfaction to let her cheat him out of what he was
entitled to by law. Both of them were moving in the direction of what
gave them satisfaction. Spinoza’s sister had no understanding of this
knowledge nor did the world at that time, although Spinoza himself
knew that man’s will is not free. Consequently, he allowed others to
hurt him with a first blow by turning the other cheek. He was
excommunicated from the synagogue while being God-intoxicated,
which seems to be a contradiction. You would think that a person
would be thrown out for being an atheist but not for being a God-
intoxicated man.

The fact that I know God is a reality doesn’t
intoxicate me. I know that the sun is also a reality but when the heat
gets unbearable, should I jump for joy? There is no comparison
between Spinoza and myself. He was a gentle man, I am not. He
refused to blame his sister for stealing what rightfully belonged to him
because he was confused and believed she couldn’t help herself. I, on
the other hand, would never advocate turning the other cheek when
someone can get the advantage by not turning it. He excused her
conduct, but if someone tried to take what belonged to me I’d fight
him tooth and nail. Turning the other cheek under these conditions
could lead to further harm, which is why most people reject the pacifist
position. How is it humanly possible not to fight back when one is
being hurt first, which goes back to the justification of an eye for an
eye and a tooth for a tooth. I personally would get greater satisfaction
defending myself or retaliating against those people who would do, or
have done, things to hurt me and my family. I’m not a saint, but a
scientist of human conduct. Most of mankind is compelled, for
greater satisfaction, to move in this direction.

Therefore, it should be
clear that the corollary, Thou Shall Not Blame, does not mean that
you should suddenly stop blaming because you have discovered that
man’s will is not free. It only means at this point that we are going to
follow it, to extend it, to see exactly where it takes us, something that
investigators like Durant have never done because the implications
prevented them from opening the door beyond the vestibule. The fact
that man’s will is not free only means that he is compelled to move in
the direction of greater satisfaction. If you sock me I might get
greater satisfaction in socking you back. However, once man
understands what it means that his will is not free, this desire to sock
me is prevented by your realization that I will never blame you for
hurting me. Until this knowledge is understood we will be compelled
to continue living in the world of free will, otherwise, we would only
make matters worse for ourselves.

To show you how confused is the understanding of someone who
doesn’t grasp these principles, a local columnist interested in my ideas,
so he called them, made the statement that I believe that man should
not be blamed for anything he does which is true only when man
knows what it means that his will is not free. If he doesn’t know, he
is compelled to blame by his very nature. Christ also received
incursions of thought from this same principle which compelled him
to turn the other cheek and remark as he was being nailed to the cross,
“They know not what they do,” forgiving his enemies even in the
moment of death. How was it possible for him to blame them when
he knew that they were not responsible? But they knew what they
were doing and he could not stop them even by turning the other
cheek. Religion was compelled to believe that God was not responsible
for the evil in the world, whereas Spinoza and Christ believed correctly
that there was no such thing as evil when seen in total perspective.

But how was it possible, except for people like Christ and Spinoza, to
forgive those who trespassed against them? And how was it possible
for those who became victims of this necessary evil to look at it in
total perspective? Is it any wonder man cried out to God for
understanding? The time has arrived to clear up all the confusion and
reconcile these two opposite principles, which requires that you keep
an open mind and proceed with the investigation. Let me show you
how this apparent impasse can be rephrased in terms of possibility.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

This excerpt is for anyone who is interested in the discovery and isn't caught up in Chuck's tripe.

peacegirl, it is a hurt to the Authentic Text for you to refer to the Authentic Text as "tripe," but as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, I allow for the source! In any event, your Corrupted Text does not interest. We reject your Corrupted Text because it is Corrupt. We will interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, and we shall do so without blame from you.

As the True Steward of the Authentic Text, one of my important tasks is to deconfuse the listeners after the years of Corruption to which you have subjected them. I must cut away the cancer of the Corrupted Text, and being to heal the harm it has done to the Authentic Text. This is an important part of my role as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, and I shall perform it without blame from peacegirl.

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

You know, multiple people of good faith pointed out to peacegirl multiple times in this thread that her no-little-ones-present proviso violated the Thou Shalt Not Blame Corollary. After all, what is the act of sending the little ones out of the room before bending the old lady over the dining room table and plowing her up the beloved genitalia and/or bunghole (is the bunghole a "sexual organ" according to the Authentic Text? ) if not blaming the young 'uns for wanting to watch? That very topic was the subject of a Lessons from Lessans installment preserved here.

Now, thanks entirely to ChuckF and his mathematical, scientific and undeniable True Stewardship of the Authentic Text written and published by Seymour Lessans during his lifetime, we know that peacegirl's no-little-ones-present proviso is just more of her fraudulent, made-up bullshit that bears exactly zero resemblance to the author's real work. I cannot say why peacegirl's path of greater satisfaction involves making up fraudulent nonsense from whole cloth and presenting said fraudulent nonsense as the work of Seymour Lessans, but make no mistake - that is in fact peacegirl's path of greater satisfaction.

Land sake! So peacegirl added the line “provided no little ones are present.” My, my. Well, as Flo always says, “the proof is in the gift horse’s mouth provided the cart is not put before it” and “you can lead a pudding to the baby and the bathwater but you can’t make it drink.”

Note, too, how my nephew davidm anticipated that ChuckF would one day become the True Steward of the Authentic Text. That is why he used Pimp Brezhnev (Chuck) as narrator and finished up by having Chuck speak the prophetic words, “Something has obviously gone seriously wrong with this edition of Lessons from Lessans. So we will end it now and try to work out the bugs.” It turned out that “working out the bugs” meant Chuck acquiring possession of the Authentic Text written and published by the author in his lifetime and comparing it side by side with the Corrupted Text that peacegirl Corrupted for lucre. This was an astute observation on my nephew’s part that proved to be mathematically undeniable.

#TrueStewardship

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

Land sake! So peacegirl added the line “provided no little ones are present.” My, my. Well, as Flo always says, “the proof is in the gift horse’s mouth provided the cart is not put before it” and “you can lead a pudding to the baby and the bathwater but you can’t make it drink.”

Note, too, how my nephew davidm anticipated that ChuckF would one day become the True Steward of the Authentic Text. That is why he used Pimp Brezhnev (Chuck) as narrator and finished up by having Chuck speak the prophetic words, “Something has obviously gone seriously wrong with this edition of Lessons from Lessans. So we will end it now and try to work out the bugs.” It turned out that “working out the bugs” meant Chuck acquiring possession of the Authentic Text written and published by the author in his lifetime and comparing it side by side with the Corrupted Text that peacegirl Corrupted for lucre. This was an astute observation on my nephew’s part that proved to be mathematically undeniable.

#TrueStewardship

You know why I added that phrase? Because of you all turning this book into sleaze. Have you conveniently forgotten that adding or omitting a word or phrase that does not alter the basic concept is not eligible for copyright? I'm sure that went over your head.

[Florence Jellem]

So we are to blame for peacegirl corrupting the text.

Thou shalt not blame, dear.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You know why I added that phrase?

yes, peacegirl, I do know: because you Corrupted the Authentic Text.

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

yes, peacegirl, I do know: because you Corrupted the Authentic Text.

In pursuit of lucre!

[peacegirl]

If anyone is interested in discussing this discovery with me, you can join my facebook page at Safeworld Publishing Company. I may change the name of the page to include the word determinism, so that it can be more easily found by people interested in this topic. This page has never been active but it would be my pleasure to discuss the book with interested parties without all the background noise. I know some people have checked out the page but because it looks abandoned, they have not joined. I am not telling anyone they have to believe that this is a genuine discovery. I am only asking that they give this author the benefit of the doubt and hear what he has to say before throwing the book out prematurely. Unfortunately, certain people (they know who they are) are falsely portraying the true meaning of the book by taking things out of context and deliberately making it appear what it is not. It has become unrecognizable, even to me. The general attitude in here is probably discouraging anyone from wanting to learn more which makes me sad. There is a vendetta against me because of my father's claim that the eyes are not a sense organ. Davidm and others just can't deal with it so they attack the messenger, which is all I am. I cannot continue with the tomato throwing and the repetitive nature of Chuck's posts which are aimed at disrupting this thread and causing it to derail. He has succeeded, which is forcing my next move.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

If anyone is interested in discussing this discovery with me, you can join my facebook page at Safeworld Publishing Company. I may change the name to include the word determinism, so that it can be more easily found by people interested in this subject. This page has never been active but it would be my pleasure to discuss the book with interested parties without the background noise. I know people have checked out the page but because it looks abandoned, no one has joined. I am not telling people they have to believe that this is a genuine discovery. I am only asking that they give this author the benefit of the doubt and make up their own mind. I cannot continue in here with the tomato throwing and the repetitive nature of Chuck's posts which is aimed at disrupting this thread such a degree that there is no room to discuss the book at all.

peacegirl, I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text. My posts in this thread are aimed at interpreting the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, without blame from you.

If anyone is interested in discussing the Authentic Text as written but he Author and published in his lifetime, without blame from peacegirl, it would be my pleasure to discuss the Authentic Text with interested parties without the background noise of her Corrupted Text.

In the meantime, peacegirl, as you are unable to continue here, I bid you farewell, never again to return to this thread.

As the True Steward of the Authentic Text, I will continue to guide the discussion here. Further, I strongly urge listeners who are interested in the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime to reject peacegirl's Corrupted Text, for it is Corrupt.

We must give the author the benefit of the doubt that he was capable of expressing what he wished to express in his own words, as published in the Authentic Text during his lifetime, without Corruption.

[Florence Jellem]

Farewell forever, dear! See in 20 minutes.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You know why I added that phrase?

Because you resent Seymour Lessans.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

If anyone is interested in discussing this discovery with me, you can join my facebook page at Safeworld Publishing Company.

This is for the best. An echo chamber where you can expound upon and try to sell (at $41.00 a pop ) your fraudulent Corrupted Text is the best option for a special snowflake such as yourself. I'm led to believe that Facebookers are rather dumb and gullible, so you may someday make a sale.

Your departure will benefit us as well. We have ChuckF, who is the real deal, the True Steward of Seymour Lessans' intellectual legacy. With his able assistance and guidance, we will study and discuss the Authentic Text that Seymour Lessans wrote and published during his lifetime. And we will be able to do so without you anger-peeing blame and resentment all over this forum.

Goodbye forever, peacegirl! That is to say, see you in a few hours!

[Florence Jellem]

Flo is preparing appropriate hashtags for all the key discoveries already teased out of the Authentic Text under the astute exegesis of ChuckF. Feel free to add any I miss, boys.

#BooHogCorollary
#ParableOfTheBreasts
#JuicyCunts
#PreciousPreciousCunts
#SurreptitiousAphrodisiacTheorem
#GrassOnFieldAxiom