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Old 07-22-2008, 08:15 PM
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Since Hafemeister et al accept a premise (observed global temp increase) not accepted by Monckton, they're pretty much talking past each other, but it's a start.
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:18 AM
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Contemporaneously, Roy Spencer's just-released testimony before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee seems to support Monckton's argument wrt climate sensitivity.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...a-7afbc4ee72f3
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Gosh, whaddyaknow, there never was any global warming at all, let's all live happily ever after and wait for the glaciers to grow back.
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No sour grapes here, just some good ol' styrofoam BBQ. Mmmmmm, good eatin'!
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Just out of curiosity, yguy, do you accept as likely that graph of Monckton's showing 600 million years of global temperatures?
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600 million years of global temperatures?????
It has to be non-sense. The Earth is no more than 10 thousand years old!
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Just out of curiosity, yguy, do you accept as likely that graph of Monckton's showing 600 million years of global temperatures?
I have no way of knowing. I don't think anyone does, but such agnosticism on that point seems not to be accepted by the scientific community. The only thing I consider likely about it is that it's representative of work done by scientists according to their best understanding.
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I would love to know what the real explanation for the melting glaciers is!
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I would love to know what the real explanation for the melting glaciers is!

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Dragar,

Santa has been sprinkling salt on the ice caps because he intends to seriously fucking punish the bad boys and girls pretty fucking soon.
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Here's a couple of critiques of Monckton's piece:

Deltoid: Monckton's triple counting
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