Go Back   Freethought Forum > The Public Baths > News, Politics & Law

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-27-2009, 04:07 PM
livius drusus's Avatar
livius drusus livius drusus is offline
Admin of THIEVES and SLUGABEDS
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: LVCCCLXXII
Images: 5
Alert Has the AP Finally Lost It?

First any semblance of originality in reporting, and now its collective mind: A.P. Cracks Down on Unpaid Use of Articles on Web.

A sphincter says what?Taking a new hard line that news articles should not turn up on search engines and Web sites without permission, The Associated Press said Thursday that it would add software to each article that shows what limits apply to the rights to use it, and that notifies The A.P. about how the article is used.

Tom Curley, The A.P.’s president and chief executive, said the company’s position was that even minimal use of a news article online required a licensing agreement with the news organization that produced it. In an interview, he specifically cited references that include a headline and a link to an article, a standard practice of search engines like Google, Bing and Yahoo, news aggregators and blogs.


The AP is notoriously litigious about even quotes from their articles -- they threatened to sue Christian Forums for quoting articles in posts, even with attribution -- and now they're upping the ante.

RIAA ain't got nothin' on the APEach article — and, in the future, each picture and video — would go out with what The A.P. called a digital “wrapper,” data invisible to the ordinary consumer that is intended, among other things, to maximize its ranking in Internet searches. The software would also send signals back to The A.P., letting it track use of the article across the Web.


Note to self: do not use any AP stories in blog entries and posts. Reuters has the same crap anyway.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Adam (07-27-2009), Crumb (07-27-2009), Nullifidian (07-27-2009), SharonDee (07-27-2009), Watser? (07-27-2009)
  #2  
Old 07-27-2009, 04:12 PM
Demimonde's Avatar
Demimonde Demimonde is offline
an angry unicorn or a non-murdering leprechaun
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Edge of Society
Gender: Female
Posts: VMMCDLXI
Blog Entries: 5
Images: 28
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Quote:
Originally Posted by livius drusus View Post
The AP is notoriously litigious about even quotes from their articles -- they threatened to sue Christian Forums for quoting articles in posts, even with attribution -- and now they're upping the ante.
That is ... just staggeringly stupid. Not that I typically post news links, but geez, now I probably won't at all from AP.

One would think in this age where news print media is going the way of the dinosaur, they would be catering a bit to those who, um, read their shit and want to discuss it. Bad move AP.
__________________
:boobkicker:
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-27-2009, 04:22 PM
livius drusus's Avatar
livius drusus livius drusus is offline
Admin of THIEVES and SLUGABEDS
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: LVCCCLXXII
Images: 5
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

They seem to think this move is going to protect precious print journalism from them intertube vultures because the papers won't have to spend money on their own copyright protection software, and those nasty bloggerses won't be able to profit from side adverts on AP content.

Yeah. Crazy. I'm looking forward to seeing that software hacked in some amusing fashion.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-27-2009, 04:53 PM
Ari's Avatar
Ari Ari is offline
I read some of your foolish scree, then just skimmed the rest.
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bay Area
Gender: Male
Posts: XMCMLVII
Blog Entries: 8
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Since as we all know the best way to deal with a new market is not to change but to apply DRM to your work and sue everyone that gets in the way in a desperate attempt to hold on.
Of course maybe it would be easier to sell if the AP actually had quality journalism.

The AP is suing Fairey (of Obama "Hope" poster fame) over copyright infringement, ironically the photographer of the image is Suing the AP over copyright infringement claiming the AP has no right to the copyright of his image.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Adam (07-27-2009), Caligulette (07-31-2009), ChuckF (07-27-2009), chunksmediocrites (07-27-2009), livius drusus (07-27-2009), Nullifidian (07-27-2009), SharonDee (07-27-2009), Watser? (07-27-2009)
  #5  
Old 07-27-2009, 05:53 PM
livius drusus's Avatar
livius drusus livius drusus is offline
Admin of THIEVES and SLUGABEDS
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: LVCCCLXXII
Images: 5
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

The AP is a chop shop, basically. I interned for the AP one summer when I was in college, and 99% of the writing was cribbed from local reporters and the Italian national newswires. The irony of the Fairy lawsuit is repeated every day, a thousand times a day, all over the world.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Adam (07-27-2009), Ari (07-27-2009), chunksmediocrites (07-27-2009), Nullifidian (07-27-2009)
  #6  
Old 07-27-2009, 06:40 PM
Qingdai's Avatar
Qingdai Qingdai is offline
Dogehlaugher -Scrutari
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Northwest
Gender: Female
Posts: XVDLXVIII
Images: 165
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Fairy lawsuit?

Is that a reference to Disney?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-27-2009, 06:41 PM
Crumb's Avatar
Crumb Crumb is offline
Adequately Crumbulent
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cascadia
Gender: Male
Posts: LXMMMCLXXIX
Blog Entries: 22
Images: 355
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

No, teh gays. :biker2:
__________________
:joecool2: :cascadia: :ROR: :portland: :joecool2:
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-27-2009, 06:44 PM
Qingdai's Avatar
Qingdai Qingdai is offline
Dogehlaugher -Scrutari
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Northwest
Gender: Female
Posts: XVDLXVIII
Images: 165
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Oh got it Fairey lawsuit, the Obama graphic.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-27-2009, 06:56 PM
livius drusus's Avatar
livius drusus livius drusus is offline
Admin of THIEVES and SLUGABEDS
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: LVCCCLXXII
Images: 5
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Yeah thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:00 PM
Qingdai's Avatar
Qingdai Qingdai is offline
Dogehlaugher -Scrutari
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Northwest
Gender: Female
Posts: XVDLXVIII
Images: 165
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Now if we can just connect the gay/Obama/Disney conspiracy.

I'll get on it.

I heard several months ago that AP was flipping out about copy right on the web. Nice, they found the music industries' answer to their problem.

That hasn't caused any resentment at all. I wonder if they will have articles sold to them, after a time.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:18 PM
chunksmediocrites's Avatar
chunksmediocrites chunksmediocrites is offline
ne plus ultraviolet
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Portland Oregon USA
Gender: Male
Posts: VCCXXX
Images: 299
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Ongoing battle to figure out how to increase monetization of the internet so they can make money off it. Ads work but the cost they can charge for ads has gone down because the internet is covered in ads now. Ads are also based on traffic- when they start charging traffic drops massively, so they end up dependent on subscribers who are paying to not see ads. I think it will end up much like a lot of sites- premium option and the free option, with the free part working that border-line of do I really want this content? Because I have to wade through a shit-ton of ads loading and popping and blinking- is it worth it to pay premium or should I just go somewhere else?

Here at :ff: of course it is simply the initiation fee and mob influence that gets you into the supersekret forum.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:23 PM
Ensign Steve's Avatar
Ensign Steve Ensign Steve is offline
California Sober
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Silicon Valley
Gender: Bender
Posts: XXXMMCDLX
Images: 66
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Don't forget about the spankings! :harder:
__________________
:kiwf::smurf:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
chunksmediocrites (07-27-2009)
  #13  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:28 PM
Ari's Avatar
Ari Ari is offline
I read some of your foolish scree, then just skimmed the rest.
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bay Area
Gender: Male
Posts: XMCMLVII
Blog Entries: 8
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

While I don't have an answer, I think they should take a long hard look at the recording industry. People are still willing to pay for content, but are much less likely to take crap from an industry. Force people to pay for fluff or make them wade through some complicated system and they will just go somewhere else.

One thing the print industry seems to be failing at is good content. I haven't canceled magazine subscriptions just because I was getting the content online but because the content was small and poor. The writing was poor, the subjects boring and the magazine half the size and yet with the same amount of ads.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
ChuckF (07-27-2009), Garnet (07-27-2009)
  #14  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:34 PM
Adam's Avatar
Adam Adam is offline
Vice Cobra Assistant Commander
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA
Posts: XMVDCCXLIX
Images: 29
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

I dunno if they're still doing it, but a few years back, the record labels started seeding all the big filesharing services with phony versions of popular songs that degenerated into obnoxious electronic noise ten of fifteen seconds in. Maybe the AP could start publishing the real news in print and spread made up bullshit online. On the other hand, that would require that their real news was easily distinguishable from made up bullshit...
__________________
"Trans Am Jesus" is "what hanged me"
ARMORED HOT DOG
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Ari (07-27-2009), ChuckF (07-27-2009), chunksmediocrites (07-27-2009), Demimonde (07-27-2009), Ensign Steve (07-27-2009), freemonkey (08-07-2009), Garnet (07-27-2009), Kael (07-27-2009), lisarea (07-27-2009), livius drusus (07-27-2009), Nullifidian (07-27-2009)
  #15  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:46 PM
Watser?'s Avatar
Watser? Watser? is offline
Fishy mokey
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Furrin parts
Posts: LMMMDXCI
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

They still do that I think.

But if you want to download music, emule and that sort of thing is not the way to go anymore anyways.

The record labels will always be at least one step behind.
__________________
:typingmonkey:
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:47 PM
Ensign Steve's Avatar
Ensign Steve Ensign Steve is offline
California Sober
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Silicon Valley
Gender: Bender
Posts: XXXMMCDLX
Images: 66
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Yeah, really! Haven't they ever heard of limewire? :type:
__________________
:kiwf::smurf:
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-27-2009, 07:49 PM
Watser?'s Avatar
Watser? Watser? is offline
Fishy mokey
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Furrin parts
Posts: LMMMDXCI
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

:blankstare:
__________________
:typingmonkey:
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-27-2009, 08:19 PM
ChuckF's Avatar
ChuckF ChuckF is offline
liar in wolf's clothing
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Frequently about
Posts: XXCDXCIV
Images: 2
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Ah yes, it is the RIAA/MPAA strategy for fortune reversal. First, identify where consumers went for your content in the good old days: in this case, newspapers. Second, identify where they go now: the internets. Now, come up with a solution to please the old media and annoy the new by implicitly (or what the hell, explicitly) suggesting that consumers are criminals. Voilŕ! Newspapers aren't dying because they cling to an outmoded business model! No, now they are dying because you are kind of a criminal.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Adam (07-27-2009), Ari (07-27-2009), chunksmediocrites (07-27-2009), Clutch Munny (07-30-2009), Deadlokd (07-29-2009), Ensign Steve (07-27-2009), freemonkey (08-07-2009), livius drusus (07-27-2009), Nullifidian (07-27-2009), Watser? (07-27-2009)
  #19  
Old 07-27-2009, 09:03 PM
Sauron's Avatar
Sauron Sauron is offline
Dark Lord, on the Dark Throne
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: VDCCLXXXVIII
Images: 157
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qingdai View Post
Now if we can just connect the gay/Obama/Disney conspiracy.
I heard that Obama is pushing Disney to open a theme park in Mombasa, Kenya, near the home where he was born.

Suspicious? I think so!
__________________
In the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie...:sauron:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Qingdai (07-28-2009)
  #20  
Old 07-27-2009, 09:07 PM
Crumb's Avatar
Crumb Crumb is offline
Adequately Crumbulent
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cascadia
Gender: Male
Posts: LXMMMCLXXIX
Blog Entries: 22
Images: 355
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Is it gay themed?
__________________
:joecool2: :cascadia: :ROR: :portland: :joecool2:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Miisa (07-27-2009)
  #21  
Old 07-27-2009, 09:07 PM
Miisa's Avatar
Miisa Miisa is offline
Dancing redshirt
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hellmouth
Posts: VDXXXI
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Where's the gay? Is Disney the gay? Is Kenya gay? I want gayness in there.
__________________
:roadrun:
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-27-2009, 09:09 PM
Watser?'s Avatar
Watser? Watser? is offline
Fishy mokey
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Furrin parts
Posts: LMMMDXCI
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

They will sneak teh ghey in through the backdoor.
__________________
:typingmonkey:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
BrotherMan (07-27-2009), Caligulette (07-31-2009), Crumb (07-27-2009), Deadlokd (07-29-2009), Pan Narrans (07-28-2009)
  #23  
Old 07-27-2009, 09:12 PM
Demimonde's Avatar
Demimonde Demimonde is offline
an angry unicorn or a non-murdering leprechaun
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Edge of Society
Gender: Female
Posts: VMMCDLXI
Blog Entries: 5
Images: 28
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miisa View Post
Where's the gay? Is Disney the gay? Is Kenya gay? I want gayness in there.
Here you go ...

__________________
:boobkicker:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Deadlokd (07-29-2009)
  #24  
Old 07-27-2009, 09:22 PM
Sauron's Avatar
Sauron Sauron is offline
Dark Lord, on the Dark Throne
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: VDCCLXXXVIII
Images: 157
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crumb View Post
Is it gay themed?
Only during the day.

At night, they lock the gates and it becomes a training camp for Al Qaeda in Kenya.
__________________
In the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie...:sauron:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Caligulette (07-31-2009)
  #25  
Old 07-27-2009, 09:36 PM
Miisa's Avatar
Miisa Miisa is offline
Dancing redshirt
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hellmouth
Posts: VDXXXI
Default Re: Has the AP Finally Lost It?

So it's the Obama Disney Al Gayda theme park. Will there be a Magic Mountain?
__________________
:roadrun:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
livius drusus (07-27-2009), wei yau (07-28-2009)
Reply

  Freethought Forum > The Public Baths > News, Politics & Law


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Page generated in 0.43826 seconds with 14 queries