A revolution in thought

[Angakuk]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

LadyShea keeps referring to this. She says that there are biologists, lawyers, philosophers, etc. who are very capable. I'm sure they are, but what she appears to be saying is that if these people don't agree with Lessans, then it can't be right. That in itself is a big problem because it's not the knowledge and what it contains that matters the most; it's the opinions of those considered "the best of the best" that matters most unfortunately.

I don't recall that Lady Shea ever claimed that the posters at are "the best of the best". Would you care to provide a citation for that?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

You are responding to someone who thinks you are mentally ill, do you think he considers you of sound judgment regarding other people's motivations?

I really don't care what he thinks. This discussion is not about my mental status, and I'm NOT going to take your post seriously.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Angakuk

I don't recall that Lady Shea ever claimed that the posters at are "the best of the best". Would you care to provide a citation for that?

She didn't say those exact words, but she did allude to the fact that there are professionals in here who are very educated in their fields.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I wasn't being literal Angakuk. I could have said "dismissed" him. I am just at a loss as to what is holding people back from actually taking the time to study this work. It doesn't make sense to me, and people are truly missing out, no joke.

There is nothing you can do. The writing is horrid, the man was woefully misinformed, his personal accounts were not laudatory. It is sweet that his daughter loved him so much as to put herself through hell for the guy, but she also turns out to be crazy.

If what Lessans thought was real there is nothing you need do. It will happen. You can kick back, enjoy your retirement and spend time with your family.

The book is out there, if Lessans was right he will get the credit. You are not helping him at all.

P.S. If you want to make sure Lessans gets the credit when the great day comes make sure the book comes up on a search. You should put it out there in its entirety in as many places as possible so that the search engines know about it. Forget about making money off this book. It's never gonna happen

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I really don't care what he thinks. This discussion is not about my mental status, and I'm NOT going to take your post seriously.

peacegirl, at this point in the discussion it can't be about anything other than your mental health.

[davidm]

What a shitty Page 700 Party this turned out be.

[naturalist.atheist]

That party is sooooo last page.

[thedoc]

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Originally Posted by peacegirl
I really don't get it because you are supposed to be the best of the best, but you are turning out to be the most obnoxious group I've ever come across.


Originally Posted by peacegirl
I really don't get it because you are supposed to be the best of the best...


Peacegirl still can't make up her mind, which is it? And "Best of the Best?" just who started that nasty rumor.

[Angakuk]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

She didn't say those exact words, but she did allude to the fact that there are professionals in here who are very educated in their fields.

It is a fact that there are such professionals posting here, some in this very thread. It does not therefore follow that they are "the best of the best". It is also a fact that Lady Shea has mentioned the presence of such professionals. Again, it does not follow from her mentioning them that she is claiming they are "the best of the best". So, when you attributed such a claim to her you must have been lying. Isn't that right?

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by davidm

What a shitty Page 700 Party this turned out be.

What? Did I miss it? Shit! This thread sucks.

[specious_reasons]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You say the material isn't convincing, but you didn't read the book LadyShea. I saw how you quickly dismissed his proof that man's will is not free, and we never did get to the actual discovery.

Ironically, Ladyshea said this on page 4 of this thread:

I will even help you meet me where I am by telling you I do not accept or adhere to the concept of free will to begin with.

She just doesn't happen to agree with how Lessans "discovered" this.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

She didn't say those exact words, but she did allude to the fact that there are professionals in here who are very educated in their fields.

Putting that aside you were invited to forums that are specifically frequented by people active in fields of science and technology and you refused. It's not just us, it damn near everyone that doesn't agree with Lessans.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by davidm

What a shitty Page 700 Party this turned out be.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Angakuk

It is a fact that there are such professionals posting here, some in this very thread. It does not therefore follow that they are "the best of the best". It is also a fact that Lady Shea has mentioned the presence of such professionals. Again, it does not follow from her mentioning them that she is claiming they are "the best of the best". So, when you attributed such a claim to her you must have been lying. Isn't that right?

You sound like an interrogator Angakuk. What's up with that? No, I don't lie. She alluded to the fact that these people are some of the best and if they fail to see any validity to this discovery, no one else will either. Whether she said the best of the best is irrelevant; the point still stands.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by specious_reasons

Ironically, Ladyshea said this on page 4 of this thread:

She just doesn't happen to agree with how Lessans "discovered" this.

I know that she doesn't believe in free will because of the advances in neuroscience. But I want people to understand his reasoning, which is important to understanding the two-sided equation. In the new world, this won't be necessary because the principles will already be in place.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

So if you won't even try to answer questions on either Lessans' first or second non-discovery, what are you doing here?

Bump.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Here you go again talking about my mental status. I'm not interested.

Do you realize that after telling me you won't be talking to me anymore (and then posting to me again 3min later), you have replied to the above single post three separate times? ...and not once even answered the question? You said I've been brain-washed into thinking you are mentally ill. When did this brain-washing happen? How did it happen, and who is responsible for doing it to me?

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You missed the word "selective". To have a selective memory means that you only remember what you want to remember, or you remember the few parts that you actually read which is no indication of true understanding.

No, because I can tell that this concept is much harder to explain than I thought and it will only frustrate you and everyone else.

You were criticizing Davidm's memory (by saying that it is conveniently selective and needs jogging). You are not in any position to criticize the memory of others. For example, it escaped your memory that you had already replied to the above post (and that you had decided not to talk to me anymore).

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I told you that presenting a major discovery to a philosophy forum was a wrong approach from the very beginning.

Yes, you've 'discovered' that fact at most forums you've been to, openly declaring at each one that this is the wrong approach. So what do you each time with this new-found knowledge? You go right ahead and move onto another philosophy forum. Every single time.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'm posting less and less.

No you aren't.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

And I am not starting with another forum for the reasons I just mentioned.

Yes you will. You've claimed at multiple forums that you won't be starting again at any new ones. But you go ahead and do so anyway. You've alternately claimed at this one both that you won't be going to another forum after this, and that this is exactly what you are about to do.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

The reasons you gave wouldn't keep someone here this long, at least not in my mind.

Your mind is exactly what keeps people here.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I know that she doesn't believe in free will because of the advances in neuroscience. But I want people to understand his reasoning, which is important to understanding the two-sided equation. In the new world, this won't be necessary because the principles will already be in place.

That's a laugh. What reasoning? It's just a pile of vague, ignorant, nonsense. The "two-sided-equation" is a great example. There is no equation. At best it's an implication. But "the great man" was so ignorant he didn't know the difference.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

So if you won't even try to answer questions on either Lessans' first or second non-discovery, what are you doing here?

I didn't say I wouldn't answer questions to his second discovery, but if the only question that is being offered is regarding his presuppositions, you're putting the cart before the horse and I can't move forward.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Your mind is exactly what keeps people here.

Boo hoo!

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Yes, you've 'discovered' that fact at most forums you've been to, openly declaring at each one that this is the wrong approach. So what do you each time with this new-found knowledge? You go right ahead and move onto another philosophy forum. Every single time.

No you aren't.

Yes you will. You've claimed at multiple forums that you won't be starting again at any new ones. But you go ahead and do so anyway. You've alternately claimed at this one both that you won't be going to another forum after this, and that this is exactly what you are about to do.

Sometimes I feel the need to share the book, and the internet has allowed me to do just that, although it's been a bad move. Once I get my website created, and the book is ready as well as the mp3, I will be able to connect with people through other avenues. I'm not going to go through this again. The effort wasn't worth it.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I didn't mean that this is the only forum I've been to. I know that my posts are all over the internet. I can't do anything about that. I've learned a lot from each one, even if it's not what to do again.

Yep, your lies and evasion are out there for all to see. Anyone who researches Lessans will be able to see exactly how you have behaved. And what have you learned not to do? Your actual presentation has never changed at all. You've just gone ahead and done exactly the same thing at every forum you've been to, without changing your presentation in the slightest. Whatever you've allegedly learnt you've clearly either forgotten or disregarded completely.