Mrs. Sexism

[Johnny Pneumatic]

Before a woman is married she's called Ms., after she's married she's called Mrs. Before a man is married he's called Mr., after he's married he's called Mr.

In India before a woman is married she has a bare forehead. After she's married she has a red dot tatooed into her skin. An Indian male has a bare forehead before marrage. An Indian male has a bare forehead after marrage.

Why? Why this sexism?

[alphamale]

Cuz we guys rule the world - suck it up!

[Johnny Pneumatic]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Cuz we guys rule the world - suck it up!

I'm a guy as well you tard.

[Veritas]

Well if I ever get married I'm keeping my own surname - I already have one, what do I need a man's for? I'll only wear a ring if he wears one too - equality, after all. And my title? It's Ms now, always has been, always will be.

[godfry n. glad]

Okay...

I'm a feminist and my wife was as well. When we married, she kept her full name and took my family name as well. She did not hyphenate, just made her maiden family name her middle name. This was because she liked how my family name sounded with her given name....it was a classic combo.

She also continued as Ms., rather than adopting Mrs. That seems to be the usage amongst those in the US, although the keeping of the maiden name seems to be common.

I think it basically offers women more choice than men. But then, the more hardcore tend to stray away from what she did. And then, men have that choice and take it as well at times. It has been pointed out to me that keeping one's maiden name is keeping the name of your father. How is that any less "sexist"? I personally think the Icelandic have a quaint approach to the whole "name game".

Anybody at any time can change their name. It's a relatively easy court process, but it can be a pain in the ass in terms of personal finance...all those changes in accounts have to be changed, some requiring legal evidence of the change.

So, who cares? The user of the tag. If a woman wishes to use the Mrs. tag, it's her choice. Likewise with the Ms. tag. It makes no matter. I'd personally just as soon see the whole Miss/Mrs. routine fade away, and that men have Mr. and women have Ms.

I think it's that easy.

The trick is children.

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by SkepticJ

I'm a guy as well you tard.

With a FEMALE avatar, how the hell am I supposed to know, tard? Besides, you sound like a chick!

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by scarletpeaches

Well if I ever get married I'm keeping my own surname - I already have one, what do I need a man's for? I'll only wear a ring if he wears one too - equality, after all. And my title? It's Ms now, always has been, always will be.

Why should a guy marry you?

[Veritas]

Well, obviously I'm talking about a guy who's not a complete fuckstick, which rules you out.

[Corona688]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Why should a guy marry you?

Do you think the name thing is really that important, or are you just insulting her?

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by scarletpeaches

Well, obviously I'm talking about a guy who's not a complete fuckstick, which rules you out.

I'm asking you a simple question - clean your mouth out and give a simple answer to a simple question - why should a guy marry you? You can't think of a reason?

[Veritas]

Try improving your manners and I'll consider answering a less hostile question.

I can think of plenty reasons why a man would marry me; what I can't think of is one good reason for you to talk down to me like you're somehow superior.

[Ensign Steve]

I took my husband's name when I married because it is easier to pronounce and spell than my maiden name. I spent 26 years spelling my name out to people, and I love not having to do that any more.


I hope that's okay with everybody.

[Veritas]

Absolutely not, how dare you...oh wait, you have your own mind, don't you? Well that's okay then.

[Ensign Steve]

I'm not sure. Let me ask my husband.

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by scarletpeaches

Try improving your manners and I'll consider answering a less hostile question.

I can think of plenty reasons why a man would marry me; what I can't think of is one good reason for you to talk down to me like you're somehow superior.

What are you talking about? What manners did I violate? What do you mean "hostile question"? What do you mean "talk down" to you? Once again, here it is - a simple question:

Why would a man marry you?

[Johnny Pneumatic]

Originally Posted by alphamale

With a FEMALE avatar, how the hell am I supposed to know, tard? Besides, you sound like a chick!

And your avatar is a circular saw. I guess that means you're a sharp metal disk used to cut through wood.

I do? When I say I'm a straight male that can't get lucky in the love department? Somebody's reading comprehension skills aren't even up to grade school level...

[Johnny Pneumatic]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Why would a man marry you?

Because she's great in bed.

[Veritas]

He's right, you know!

[Crumb]

That's why I proposed, but she turned me down...

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by scarletpeaches

He's right, you know!

That's it, then, huh? You're good in bed?

[Dingfod]

I thought Ms. was the liberated woman designation for both single and married women. It used to be Miss Her-name became Mrs. His-name, but I don't know of a state in the U.S. that requires it to be that way.

[lisarea]

Originally Posted by Warren

I thought Ms. was the liberated woman designation for both single and married women. It used to be Miss Her-name became Mrs. His-name, but I don't know of a state in the U.S. that requires it to be that way.

Yup. Ms is specifically designed as an equivalent to Mr.

Replacing the Ms in the OP with Miss though, why this sexism is because women were and still are to some extent considered the property of their fathers, handed down at some point to their husbands; and that's not the kind of thing that goes away over a few decades.

[Dingfod]

But there's no law requiring it. It's just tradition.


Tradition![/Fiddler on the Roof]

[Carnivale Ed]

I know two married couples where the wife did not take her husband's name. That seemed to work fine until they had children. Legally, they still carry their maiden names, but both have dropped it from common usage. They're both stay-at-home mums, often involved with schooling, and they just got sick of explaining who they were to people because their kids have different surnames.

[Ensign Steve]

You would think "society" would catch on eventually. Over two decades ago my mom and I were having to deal with that because she took my stepfather's name and I didn't (it was even harder to spell and pronounce than mine!).