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Old 10-14-2004, 08:28 PM
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Cool Hand, I gave you the benefit of the doubt at first, even when you called Zell Miller's hateful tirade "moving". But after reading the above I have a hard time thinking you're not a troll. No one as articulate as you could be naive enough to believe that bullshit.
Why not? I was naive enough to believe you and everyone else would appreciate a great OP and respond to it in a positive, productive manner. You've proven me the fool many times over now.
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Old 10-14-2004, 08:34 PM
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Why not? I was naive enough to believe you and everyone else would appreciate a great OP and respond to it in a positive, productive manner. You've proven me the fool many times over now.
I didn't find the OP "great". The OP seemed to be saying that Bush is a well-meaing compassionate conservative who has been taken in by Karl Rove and made to pander to the religious right. The OP seemed to express surprise and dismay that a Republican candidate for state attorney general would be hostile to gay marriage. Get real. In 2000 those might have been plausible things to think. But now? Bush and his backers showed their true colors a long time ago. Bush is an arrogant Jesus-freak with plans for world domination who ignores anyone who disagrees with him, even after they have been proven right.

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Bush is right about many of his criticisms of Kerry
Like what? That Kerry is a "flip-flopper"? Clearly false. That Kerry dares to tell the truth about the Iraq war, that it was the wrong war at the wrong time and Bush's coalition is fake? That Kerry would raise taxes? Also false - at least for 98% of Americans.

I understand real moderate, socially libertarian Republicans who are disillusioned with Bush. But they woke up in 2001, not 2004, and they have no illusions that Bush is "pandering" to anyone. They know Bush is acting on his own warped, childish ideas.
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