Time's persons of the year.

[alphamale]

Sickening, really sickening. Bono, and Bill and Melinda Gates.

Gates funded the Millennium Scholars Program, a billion dollar scholarship fund. What's the problem with that? White people need not apply. If you're a bright but impoverished white student - tough shit. That the courts allow state supported universities to have anything to do with such scholarships, or that such a foundation is tax privileged, is outrageous.

Bono is a person who goes around and gets western governments to screw their taxpayers by dumping billions of dollars into the disaster continent, africa, including AIDS projects that condemn millions of africans to death because of their PC methodology.

[Petra]

You know that much of the time, Time's Person of the Year is not particularly an honour, right?

TIME's choices for Person of the Year are often controversial. Editors are asked to choose the person or thing that had the greatest impact on the news, for good or ill—guidelines that leave them no choice but to select a newsworthy—not necessarily praiseworthy—cover subject.

http://www.time.com/time/personofthe.../photohistory/


And I'd like you to prove the validity of your assertions regarding what these people do and the negative impact that has. Ta.

[Petra]

From Time's website:

For being shrewd about doing good, for rewiring politics and re-engineering justice, for making mercy smarter and hope strategic and then daring the rest of us to follow, Bill and Melinda Gates and Bono are TIME's Persons of the Year.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...140301,00.html

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by pepperspray

You know that much of the time, Time's Person of the Year is not particularly an honour, right?

He doesn't.

Not only does he not know anything, he doesn't even *suspect* anything.

[Petra]

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by pepperspray

You know that much of the time, Time's Person of the Year is not particularly an honour, right?

http://www.time.com/time/personofthe.../photohistory/


And I'd like you to prove the validity of your assertions regarding what these people do and the negative impact that has. Ta.

Ya, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I know that, and it's clear that these "honoree"'s got their awards for doing "good" in the opinion of the mainstay LME mag. Once again, I am not doing your homework for you - Gates website makes clear the discriminatory nature of the millenium scholarships - just go read it! You can also check out Bono's "philanthropic" career easily.

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Ya, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I know that, and it's clear that these "honoree"'s got their awards for doing "good" in the opinion of the mainstay LME mag.

No, it isn't. TIME once gave its "person of the year" award to the international terrorist.

Why? Because it's about impact in people's lives - that isn't necessarily a good impact.

do your homework blah blah

Says the man who screwed up the above? Puh-leez.

[alphamale]

You're a flat-out moron. Anyone's impact has to be good or bad, there's no such thing as a neutral big impact. In this case, as I said retard, the editors thought it was good.

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by alphamale

You're a flat-out moron. Anyone's impact has to be good or bad, there's no such thing as a neutral big impact.

In which case, your (trollish) evaluation of their selection criteria is bogus. It isn't because Bono etc. were good. It was because Bono etc. had the biggest impact -- whether good or bad.

[erimir]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Once again, I am not doing your homework for you - Gates website makes clear the discriminatory nature of the millenium scholarships - just go read it! You can also check out Bono's "philanthropic" career easily.

You have it ass-backwards. It's YOUR assertion. YOU back it up. You don't make arguments and then tell other people to back them up.

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by erimir

You have it ass-backwards. It's YOUR assertion. YOU back it up. You don't make arguments and then tell other people to back them up.

It's a fact - if you don't want to believe it, don't believe it, I couldn't care less.

[michael1111]

if there really is an antichrist, ive got my money on bono.

michael

[Adam]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Sickening, really sickening. Bono, and Bill and Melinda Gates.

Gates funded the Millennium Scholars Program, a billion dollar scholarship fund. What's the problem with that? White people need not apply. If you're a bright but impoverished white student - tough shit. That the courts allow state supported universities to have anything to do with such scholarships, or that such a foundation is tax privileged, is outrageous.

Bono is a person who goes around and gets western governments to screw their taxpayers by dumping billions of dollars into the disaster continent, africa, including AIDS projects that condemn millions of africans to death because of their PC methodology.

You may not agree with the choices, but sickening? Please.

As far as Bono, IMHO the guy does publicity work for an important cause. Leaving aside the fact that you'd be surprised how little taxpayer money actually goes to Africa, the issue is largely one of scale and coordination. Western governments generally provide economic aid to the developing world in small, politically palatable, chunks. These small portions of aid are not enough to bootstrap the developing nations out of crushing poverty to the point where they can begin to grow their economies on their own, so of course that money just vanishes down a sinkhole. Bono's goal, essentially, is to popularize the cause of the developing countries to the point where aid packages large enough to get the job done (one estimate I've read is 134 billion dolars from the developed world to the developing world over the period from 2005-2016) are politically palatable in the West. You can question his effectiveness, and I personally don't think he's had a large enough impact to be person of the year, but his goal is both necessary and noble.

[Adam]

Oh, I'm totally with you on the AIDS thing, though. Progress was actually being made in slowing the spread of AIDS in places like the Sudan before it became politically incorrect to fund programs that deviated from the abstinence only party line.

[Plant Woman]

If alpha took a little time and read about the Bill and Melinda Gate's Foundation he would know that they give to lots of different organizations and to help people in all walks of life regardless of race, religion, political bias. Bono does a lot of things for a lot of causes.

Alpha can only jump up and down and do nothing to help the plight of others. His lot in life is too show how unhappy he is with his own life because all he can do is bitch about everyone else. It's ok since alpha still hasn't learned to use a kleenex to wipe the snot off his cute little nose. I can only hope that he will outgrow this stage, or find a bit of happiness. It must be miserable for him right now.

Hello Hello.

[alphamale]

[/quote]
You may not agree with the choices, but sickening? Please.

As far as Bono, IMHO the guy does publicity work for an important cause. Leaving aside the fact that you'd be surprised how little taxpayer money actually goes to Africa, the issue is largely one of scale and coordination. Western governments generally provide economic aid to the developing world in small, politically palatable, chunks. These small portions of aid are not enough to bootstrap the developing nations out of crushing poverty to the point where they can begin to grow their economies on their own, so of course that money just vanishes down a sinkhole. Bono's goal, essentially, is to popularize the cause of the developing countries to the point where aid packages large enough to get the job done (one estimate I've read is 134 billion dolars from the developed world to the developing world over the period from 2005-2016) are politically palatable in the West. You can question his effectiveness, and I personally don't think he's had a large enough impact to be person of the year, but his goal is both necessary and noble.[/QUOTE]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. It's sickening because he is an emotional, ego-tripping amateur. The small portions of international aid often end up in the bank accounts of dictators (e.g. food-for-oil/ Saddam). The forgiveness of debt has a down side, because it is roughly like an individual declaring bankruptcy - it makes them a bad credit risk in the future. The worse thing about the forgiveness of debt issue, imnsho, is that it diverts attention from the REAL issue - that african states are largely ruled by corrupt authoritarian thugs. Take e.g., Zimbabwe. By driving out white farmers whose families had worked the land for seven generations, Mugabe changed that country from a food exporter to a den of starvation. If anyone REALLY wanted to help that country, they would execute an Iraq-style invasion of the country, and drive out the facsist element. Likewise for many african states. The problem is not outside their resource-rich countries, it's inside them.

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by Adam

Oh, I'm totally with you on the AIDS thing, though. Progress was actually being made in slowing the spread of AIDS in places like the Sudan before it became politically incorrect to fund programs that deviated from the abstinence only party line.

What? The international aids establishment uses PC technique to "fight" aids in africa, namely condoms. They have had full rein in africa for years, and their work has been a nearly total failure. In contrast, in Uganda, they had a national campaign called ABC - Abstinence, Be faithful, Condoms. Worked spectacularly, but it's main fault was that it wasn't party-line PC.

[alphamale]

If alpha took a little time and read about the Bill and Melinda Gate's Foundation he would know that they give to lots of different organizations and to help people in all walks of life regardless of race, religion, political bias.

He can have a racist, irrationally anti-white $1 billion program, but the rest makes up for it?

Get outta here, dumb cunt.

[Plant Woman]

Run along alpha and go play with the other kiddies. When you grow up a little more and learn to get real facts beyond the National Enquirer and Faux News you're understanding will increase and you can then talk with the grown ups. Oh and here's some tissue to wipe the snot off your nose. Until then there is no use in wasting time trying to explain it to you.

[viscousmemories]

Originally Posted by alphamale

He can have a racist, irrationally anti-white $1 billion program, but the rest makes up for it?

Poor little oppressed whitey. Just take your paycheck to Nevada and you can have a white woman too.

[D. Scarlatti]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Get outta here, dumb cunt.

Maybe the can have a Man of the Year?

[TomJoe]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Ya, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I know that, and it's clear that these "honoree"'s got their awards for doing "good" in the opinion of the mainstay LME mag. Once again, I am not doing your homework for you - Gates website makes clear the discriminatory nature of the millenium scholarships - just go read it! You can also check out Bono's "philanthropic" career easily.

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by Debbie T

If alpha took a little time

Alphatroll already knows all this. He isn't serious. This is all politics-as-entertainment for him. The alphatroll probably has time to kill in between his shifts at Kinkos. Some people do crosswords; other troll on bulletin boards.

[alphamale]

With one exception, another thread full of gutless PC pussies afraid to debate!

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by alphamale

With one exception, another thread full of gutless PC pussies afraid to debate!

Hey folks, the liberals win again. Weeniemale gave up!