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Old 10-22-2004, 08:33 PM
ApostateAbe ApostateAbe is offline
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Default Re: Are they ashamed?

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Now can we also agree that the act singling out the sexual orientation of one person to use as debate fodder is much more embarassing to that one person than the proposal to ban same sex marriages for all gays? It wasn't clear before, but that was my point.
No. I vociferously disagree with that. Actually, I agree with the letter of what you said, but I think advocating discrimination against a large amount of people is much, much more reprehensible than embarassing one individual.
I certainly agree with that. I have much more contempt for Bush for that reason, but it is still no excuse for John Kerry to do what he did.

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I also dispute that Mary Cheney or her family were embarassed, since she has been out of the closet for some time.
Like I said, an embarassment is not made null just because it is made public. I think the analogy I made earlier can draw a good perspective on why that is.
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