Abortion: A case study

[mountain_hare]

Adora:

Except for the fact that this is completely faulty logic.

You're taking my statement sex=preggers a little too literally. I'll clarify. Vaginal sex does not always result in pregnancy, but pregnancy is 99% of the time a result of vaginal sex. So if you don't want to risk getting pregnant, then don't have sex. So simple, so sure.

[username]

Originally Posted by mountain_hare

Adora:

What does that bitch have to do with the price of tea in China?

You're taking my statement sex=preggers a little to literally.

You mispelt 'too'. Just like I mispelt misspelt. I would have spelt it correctly, but I don't know who Miss Pelt is.

I'll clarify.

Oh, good.

Vaginal sex does not always result in sex,

Yessss! you are more drunkerer than I am. I love you almost as much as I love Ensign Steve. Are you a kinky bitch like she is? Please don't tell me you are adoraish.

[Adora]

Originally Posted by mountain_hare

So simple, so sure.

If you don't want to risk getting the flu, don't breathe.

So simple, so sure.

[justaman]

Originally Posted by mountain_hare

So if you don't want to risk getting pregnant, then don't have sex. So simple, so sure.

Adora did already deal with this in her uniquely Adora fashion, but I want to add my 2cents to say this is stupid advice. When people have the urge to have sex, the thought of pregnancy isn't - usually - a particularly prominent thought on their minds. Encouraging people to use contraception is much better advice, I think, because they're more likely to actually pay attention to it.

Telling them to not have sex makes me wonder if you've appreciated how cool it actually is.

[mountain_hare]

Adora:

And what about the partner in said situation? Decisions in the bedroom aren't always made with equal partner relationships involved. I'm not saying this woman made the right decisions (I believe exactly the opposite, in fact). But your whole argument condeming her is faulty, hypocritical and just plain retarded.

When did I ever claim that I was condemning just the woman?

Mostly because I don't see you laying the same blame on most of the fathers who,

Where did I ever excuse male sluts for their irresponsible actions? Oops, straw man on your behalf. But hey, it's typical for liberal retards and feminazis to squeal 'what about the male!' when someone points out that perhaps the female should have acted responsibly by keeping her legs closed.

Quite simply, criticizing the actions of female does not = absolving the male of all blame. Both the male and the female share an equal responsibility when it comes to the child.

but why isn't he the one who should take equal responsibility in the whole not-popping-out-a-sprog deal?

mountain_hare said:
The dumb bitch should keep her legs closed. And the stupid bastard knocking her up needs to be castrated quick smart.

I'm obviously supporting irresponsible fathers, when I say that they should be castrated, so that they can't produce more children. *sarcasm*

Oh please. Once again, look up the word "menstruation", and while you're at it, the words "condom", the "the contraceptive pill", "UDI" and "miscarriage" and then see my signature before even starting to talk about hyperbole.

Because we all know that condoms and contraceptive pills are 100% effective, and that miscarriage occurs whenever a woman gets pregnant... Because we all know that obviously if you have sex (unless the male has been castrated), there is no chance of getting pregnant...

With your typical liberal attitude and misinformation, it's no surprise that dumb male and female sluts today are popping out babies at the age of 14. But hey, if it feels good, who gives a shit?

More hyperbole. Grow a pair of frontal lobes above the waistline and then rejoin the conversation.

Open your eyes and actually attack my position, instead of attacking some fantasy argument. 'OMG HE SAIDS THATZ ONLEE WOMENE R TWO BLAME! TYPICUL EVIL MAIL PIG!!!111ONEONE' A lesson or two in functional literacy wouldn't hurt, either.

I hope you cooked enough STFU pie for more than one person, because I think you need a second helping.

[D. Scarlatti]

Now the woman has been released from custody, and there are no charges currently pending against her. Not only that but she has 11 kids, not 14, and she's not pregnant. Best of all, now the police have launched an investigation over allegations the woman has made, claiming the night before her arrest, a police officer had one of her children in a headlock, and told her to go get a belt and "whoop" the kid.

"He said, 'Get up and go get the belt,' " Parker said. "He had the 12-year-old choked up and told me to whoop him."

Parker said the officer had offered to hold the child while she spanked him the night before but she thought he was joking.

Mother denies child abuse allegations

[username]

I have no idea what the actual facts in the case are. A mother of 11 kids or 14 doesn't make much difference to me, if she is a CNA she can't support them either way.

However, regarding the police accusations I don't find them difficult to believe. Milwaukee is known for a corrupt police dept.

When I was much younger I went to a hotel in Milw for processing into the military. I went walking around the area being bored. As I was walking on the sidewalk, off in the distance a black man was walking toward me (the mother is black which is why I mention skin color). Between us was a commercial driveway with a police car waiting to pull out into the street.

As the guy crossed in front of the police car the officer driving lurched forward and hit the breaks as if he was threatening to run over the man. The guy didn't so much as flinch which indicated to me he was used to this treatment.

I decided on the spot I was in an F'ed up area. What cop would do something like that to anyone?

Unfortunately my interactions with the Milw police dept since then have done nothing to improve my estimation of them.

So, I see a woman with 11 kids with allegations against her and I think "Anyone with 11 kids is nuts." On the other hand I consider she is black and the allegations are coming from the racist Milw police dept and the DA declined to press charges and I think "Stupid, racist cops."

I don't know which thought is more accurate.

[Adora]

Originally Posted by mountain_hare

When did I ever claim that I was condemning just the woman?

When all you did was go on and on about her and rarely mention the male in the picture at all.

liberal retards and feminazis

Hyperbole. Remember when I said "Grow a pair"? Maybe you should think about it.

Quite simply, criticizing the actions of female does not = absolving the male of all blame.

It does if that's pretty much all you go on about, as you did, rarely mentioning the penis involved at all. But at least you're trying so hard to backpeddle. It's cute, in a fucked-up way.

Because we all know that condoms and contraceptive pills are 100% effective, and that miscarriage occurs whenever a woman gets pregnant... Because we all know that obviously if you have sex (unless the male has been castrated), there is no chance of getting pregnant...

Please post proof I said "no chance", or retract your statement.

it's no surprise that dumb male and female sluts today are popping out babies at the age of 14.

Wow, someone is completely ignorant on the topic of history (not to mention birthrates, average modern age of procreation, and, well anything, really), aren't we?

Open your eyes and actually attack my position

See, the problem here is the fact you have no position, just hyperbole. Maybe you need to fufil some criteria you're lacking before you push expectations on others in a discussion.

TYPICUL EVIL MAIL PIG!!!111ONEONE'

Thank you for proving my point.