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01-22-2008, 05:01 PM
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a billion
Saw this in an email. Thought it was kindof funny, but true...I apologize if you have already seen it.
"What is a Billion
This is too true to be funny!!
The next time you hear a politician use the word
'billion' in a casual manner, think about whether you want the
'politicians' spending YOUR tax money.
A billion is a difficult number to comprehend,
but one advertising agency did a good job of
putting that figure into some perspective in one of
its releases.
A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959.
B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.
C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in
the Stone Age.
D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on
two feet.
E. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20
minutes, at the rate our government is spending it.
While this thought is still fresh in our brain, let's
take a look at New Orleans. It's amazing what
you can learn with some simple division. Louisiana
Senator, Mary Landrieu (D), is presently asking the
Congress for $250 BILLION to rebuild New Orleans.
Interesting number, what does it mean?
A. Well, if you are one of 484,674 residents of New
Orleans (every man, woman, child), you each get $516,528.
B. Or, if you have one of the 188,251 homes in New
Orleans , your home gets $1,329,787.
C. Or, if you are a family of four, your family gets
$2,066,012.
Washington, D.C .. HELLO!!! ... Are all your
calculators broken??
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax),
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax),
Liquor Tax,
Luxury Tax,
Marriage License Tax,
Medicare Tax,
Property Tax,
Real Estate Tax,
Service charge taxes,
Social Security Tax,
Road Usage Tax (Truckers),
Sales Taxes,
Recreational Vehicle Tax,
School Tax,
State Income Tax,
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA),
Telephone Federal Excise Tax,
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax,
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax,
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax,
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax,
Telephone State and Local Tax,
Telephone Usage Charge Tax,
Utility Tax,
Vehicle License Registration Tax,
Vehicle Sales Tax,
Watercraft Registration Tax,
Well Permit Tax,
Workers Compensation Tax.
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and
our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest
middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home
to raise the kids.
What happened? Can you spell 'politicians!'
And I still have to 'press 1' for English.
What the heck happened?????"
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01-22-2008, 05:06 PM
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Re: a billion
100 years ago, women were not allowed to vote and uppity negroes knew their place, too...
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01-22-2008, 05:23 PM
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no fact/value split
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Re: a billion
those were the days - sigh
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01-22-2008, 05:33 PM
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Re: a billion
I don't mean to be uppity, it's not my money after all, but if it were I wouldn't mind money being spent on the rebuilding of New Orleans, even if it is a few billion, but I would definitely mind the billions that are spent in a pointless war in Iraq every month.
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01-22-2008, 05:56 PM
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by GodPossessed
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and
our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
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Is this true? I was under the impression that the US wasn't really all that influential until WWI or so. Any history people want to chime in?
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01-22-2008, 05:59 PM
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naruto
Quote:
Originally Posted by GodPossessed
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and
our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
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Is this true? I was under the impression that the US wasn't really all that influential until WWI or so. Any history people want to chime in?
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Our influence was fairly modest until after World War II, to the best of my knowledge.
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01-22-2008, 06:03 PM
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Fishy mokey
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naruto
Quote:
Originally Posted by GodPossessed
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and
our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
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Is this true? I was under the impression that the US wasn't really all that influential until WWI or so. Any history people want to chime in?
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I have here from The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers by Paul Kennedy, Relative shares of world manufacturing output 1880 (percent)
Britain 22.9
US 14.7
Germany 8.5
France 7.8
1900
Britain 18.5
US 23.6
Germany 13.2
France 6.8
1913
Britain 13.6
US 32.0
Germany 14.8
France 6.1
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01-22-2008, 06:11 PM
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A fellow sophisticate
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Re: a billion
Life was great 100 years ago in America. Men put in 14-16 hours of heavy labor a day, six days a week, for about a dollar a day, if you were lucky enough to have a job at the foundry/factory/mine/smelter/mill. It was common for women and children to work in sweatshop conditions as well, anything to get by. Only a small percentage of homes had electricity, telephones, or flush toilets. Coal and wood smoke in the air practically choked the life out of you. Human waste and horse manure littered the streets. Women only washed their hair once a month, and most people rarely bathed more than once weekly. Outside of cities there were few paved roads. A car was only a dream for most people. The leading causes of death were pneumonia and influenza, but only about 10% of physicians had much in the way formal education; life expectancy was only about 45 or 50.
On the other hand, marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available at corner drugstores without a prescription. That might have made it barely tolerable.
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01-22-2008, 06:43 PM
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not very big for a grown-up
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watser?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naruto
Quote:
Originally Posted by GodPossessed
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and
our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
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Is this true? I was under the impression that the US wasn't really all that influential until WWI or so. Any history people want to chime in?
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I have here from The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers by Paul Kennedy, Relative shares of world manufacturing output 1880 (percent)
Britain 22.9
US 14.7
Germany 8.5
France 7.8
1900
Britain 18.5
US 23.6
Germany 13.2
France 6.8
1913
Britain 13.6
US 32.0
Germany 14.8
France 6.1
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01-22-2008, 06:58 PM
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Fishy mokey
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leesifer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watser?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naruto
Quote:
Originally Posted by GodPossessed
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and
our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
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Is this true? I was under the impression that the US wasn't really all that influential until WWI or so. Any history people want to chime in?
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I have here from The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers by Paul Kennedy, Relative shares of world manufacturing output 1880 (percent)
Britain 22.9
US 14.7
Germany 8.5
France 7.8
1900
Britain 18.5
US 23.6
Germany 13.2
France 6.8
1913
Britain 13.6
US 32.0
Germany 14.8
France 6.1
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01-22-2008, 06:59 PM
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not very big for a grown-up
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Re: a billion
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01-22-2008, 07:53 PM
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Tellifying
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leesifer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watser?
I have here from The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers by Paul Kennedy, Relative shares of world manufacturing output 1880 (percent)
Britain 22.9
US 14.7
Germany 8.5
France 7.8
1900
Britain 18.5
US 23.6
Germany 13.2
France 6.8
1913
Britain 13.6
US 32.0
Germany 14.8
France 6.1
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What are you on about Frenchie? France never got out of last place!
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01-22-2008, 07:55 PM
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not very big for a grown-up
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Re: a billion
lacist!
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01-22-2008, 08:08 PM
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Jin, Gi, Rei, Ko, Chi, Shin, Tei
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Re: a billion
I kind of enjoy doing exercises like this, to try to grasp the immensity of Geological Time. I note, however, that there are a number of miscalculations and inaccuracies in the OP. (Not GodPossessed's fault, I'm sure.)
Hopefully, I did my math correctly. If we take a year as having 365.25 days (this accounts for leap years), then there are 24 x 365.25 hours = 8,766 hours per year. 8,766 hours x 60 minutes/hour = 525,960 minutes per year. 525,960 minutes x 60 seconds/minute = 31,557,600 seconds per year, give or take a second or two.
That means 1 billion seconds = 31.69 years. So, 1 billion seconds ago was sometime in the year 1976. Make of that what you will.
One billion minutes = 1,901.3 years. So, 1 billion minutes ago would be around the year 106 or 107 C.E. Assuming Jesus Christ ever existed, this was decades after his supposed death.
One billion hours = 114,077 years. So, 1 billion hours takes us back to the Ice Ages, well before the invention of agriculture and well before our ancestors first began to use metals. So this was, in fact, the late Paleolithic ("Stone Age").
One billion days = 2,737,850 years. Homo sapiens had yet to evolve, though there were members of the genus Homo extant at that time. Hominids had, in fact, been walking upright ("on two feet") for some 2 million years or more by this time.
One billion weeks = 19,164,955 years. At that point, early apes had evolved, but nothing remotely resembling modern humans existed.
One billion months = 83,333,333 years (approximately). This was during the Cretaceous, when dinosaurs dominated the planet -- about 15 million years before Tyrannosaurus rex lived.
One billion years ago, nothing lived on the land. There were no plants, and probably no animals either. It's possible that some very simple animals (comparable to jellyfish) had evolved by this point and were living in the seas, but we have no fossils of any animals within 100,000,000 years of this time.
One billion decades ago, neither the Earth nor the Sun yet existed. The Universe itself had only fairly recently come into existence.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Michael
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01-22-2008, 08:08 PM
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Strabismic Ungulate
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leesifer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watser?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naruto
Quote:
Originally Posted by GodPossessed
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and
our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
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Is this true? I was under the impression that the US wasn't really all that influential until WWI or so. Any history people want to chime in?
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I have here from The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers by Paul Kennedy, Relative shares of world manufacturing output 1880 (percent)
Britain 22.9
US 14.7
Germany 8.5
France 7.8
1900
Britain 18.5
US 23.6
Germany 13.2
France 6.8
1913
Britain 13.6
US 32.0
Germany 14.8
France 6.1
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American Revolutionary War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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01-22-2008, 08:20 PM
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Re: a billion
Wow, no telephone taxes and vehicle registration taxes 100 years ago. And no Medicare or utility taxes either. Sounds like a paradise.
Now let's get to work abolishing those dog license taxes and restoring American greatness.
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01-22-2008, 08:30 PM
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Jin, Gi, Rei, Ko, Chi, Shin, Tei
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Re: a billion
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Washington, D.C .. HELLO!!! ... Are all your calculators broken??
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Oh, the irony!
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While this thought is still fresh in our brain, let's take a look at New Orleans. It's amazing what you can learn with some simple division. Louisiana Senator, Mary Landrieu (D), is presently asking the
Congress for $250 BILLION to rebuild New Orleans. Interesting number, what does it mean?
A. Well, if you are one of 484,674 residents of New Orleans (every man, woman, child), you each get $516,528.
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Actually, not to nitpick or anything, but $250,000,000,000 divided by 484,674 = $515,810.6.
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B. Or, if you have one of the 188,251 homes in New Orleans , your home gets $1,329,787.
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Actually, $250,000,000,000 divided by 188,251 = $1,328,014.
Somehow, I find it amusing when someone complains about politicians being unable to do basic math -- then gets most of the math wrong. Maybe that's just me, though.
Cheers,
Michael
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01-22-2008, 09:36 PM
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California Sober
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger
That means 1 billion seconds = 31.69 years. So, 1 billion seconds ago was sometime in the year 1976. Make of that what you will.
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I'm nearly one billion seconds old?!
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01-22-2008, 09:47 PM
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign Steve
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger
That means 1 billion seconds = 31.69 years. So, 1 billion seconds ago was sometime in the year 1976. Make of that what you will.
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I'm nearly one billion seconds old?! 
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01-22-2008, 09:47 PM
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A fellow sophisticate
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Re: a billion
Goddam ur old.
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01-22-2008, 09:50 PM
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Solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short
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Re: a billion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign Steve
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger
That means 1 billion seconds = 31.69 years. So, 1 billion seconds ago was sometime in the year 1976. Make of that what you will.
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I'm nearly one billion seconds old?! 
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You can find your Gigasecond Birthday here.
My brother made us give him a party for his. Seriously.
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01-22-2008, 09:51 PM
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Re: a billion
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01-22-2008, 09:57 PM
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A fellow sophisticate
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Re: a billion
"You reached the age of one gigasecond (109 s) on Sunday April 19, 1987 at 00:42."
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01-22-2008, 10:06 PM
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California Sober
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Re: a billion
How many more minutes until you're 2 gigaseconds, Walter?
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01-22-2008, 10:09 PM
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A fellow sophisticate
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Re: a billion
Quite a few.
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