Obama:Whites are Polluting the Colored

[Angakuk]

Indeed! Endearingly irresistable.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by chunksmediocrites

Here you request a supposition based on a false dilemma and a- wait for it- hyperbolic partisan mis-characterization and lie. It is designed to smear Obama. It's trolling at a seventh-grade level. Illustrating my point, thanks!
Why you return to the subject of BLT, other than to again attempt a smear and simultaneously display your ignorance, I don't know. Your arguments regarding Black Liberation Theology were thoroughly disemboweled starting here:
Is the white separatist community starting to look bad? page 5
If you forgot, this is where, after you embarrassed yourself repeatedly, you finally explained you knew Black Liberation Theology was racist because of your 'life experience'.
And the icing is adding the word communist to your description of Black Liberation Theology, as if calling something communist makes it so. Let me try: I sure do hate that communist toast. It's always trying to "establish an egalitarian, classless, or stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general (wiki)."

You ignored all the facts. You have never read Cone and you do not understand what Black Liberation Theology is.

It is a Maxist philosophy wrapped in religious racism.

Stomping your feet will not change these facts.

[Watser?]

Disclaimer: The word 'facts' as used by Jerome the Troll may not correspond to your everyday usage of the word.

[Jerome]

Liberation theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Liberation theology is a school of theology within Christianity, particularly in the Roman Catholic Church. It emphasizes the Christian mission to bring justice to the poor and oppressed, particularly through political activism. Its theologians consider sin the root source of poverty, the sin in question being exploitative capitalism and class war by the rich against the poor. It has a range of meanings: broadly, especially in the media, it may refer to any politically-activist Christian thought, but the technical sense is narrower.

Liberation Theologians use political theory, primarily Marxism, to help understand how to combat poverty.

The Marxist Roots of Black Liberation Theology - The Acton Institute

The echoes of Cone's theology bleed through the now infamous, anti-Hilary excerpt by Rev. Wright. Clinton is among the oppressing class ("rich white people") and is incapable of understanding oppression ("ain't never been called a n-gg-r") but Jesus knows what it was like because he was "a poor black man" oppressed by "rich white people." While Black Liberation Theology is not main stream in most black churches, many pastors in Wright's generation are burdened by Cone's categories which laid the foundation for many to embrace Marxism and a distorted self-image of the perpetual "victim."

Black Liberation Theology as Marxist Victimology

Black Liberation Theology actually encourages a victim mentality among blacks. John McWhorters' book Losing the Race, will be helpful here. Victimology, says McWhorter, is the adoption of victimhood as the core of one's identity -- for example, like one who suffers through living in "a country and who lived in a culture controlled by rich white people." It is a subconscious, culturally inherited affirmation that life for blacks in America has been in the past and will be in the future a life of being victimized by the oppression of whites. In today's terms, it is the conviction that, 40 years after the Civil Rights Act, conditions for blacks have not substantially changed. As Wright intimates, for example, scores of black men regularly get passed over by cab drivers.

Reducing black identity to "victimhood" distorts the reality of true progress. For example, was Obama a victim of widespread racial oppression at the hand of "rich white people" before graduating from Columbia University, Harvard Law School magna cum laude, or after he acquired his estimated net worth of $1.3 million? How did "rich white people" keep Obama from succeeding? If Obama is the model of an oppressed black man, I want to be oppressed next! With my graduate school debt my net worth is literally negative $52,659.

[chunksmediocrites]

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

You ignored all the facts.

no u

Originally Posted by Jerome

You have never read Cone and you do not understand what Black Liberation Theology is.

no u

Originally Posted by Jerome

It is a Maxist[sic] philosophy wrapped in religious racism.

No, it is not.

Originally Posted by Jerome

Stomping your feet will not change these facts.

Mis-characterizations and lies will not make your accusations into facts, so there is nothing here to stomp at even if I were so inclined. Maybe you confuse stomping with pointing and laughter.

Watch as Jerome turns the debate to Black Liberation Theology because his "facts" about Van Jones being an "insane racist" are unsupportable. Jerome, any stats on school shooters by race yet?

[Watser?]

Let me supply the smilies this so sadly lacked:

[chunksmediocrites]

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

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The Marxist Roots of Black Liberation Theology - The Acton Institute

The echoes of Cone's theology bleed through the now infamous, anti-Hilary excerpt by Rev. Wright. Clinton is among the oppressing class ("rich white people") and is incapable of understanding oppression ("ain't never been called a n-gg-r") but Jesus knows what it was like because he was "a poor black man" oppressed by "rich white people." While Black Liberation Theology is not main stream in most black churches, many pastors in Wright's generation are burdened by Cone's categories which laid the foundation for many to embrace Marxism and a distorted self-image of the perpetual "victim."

Black Liberation Theology as Marxist Victimology

Black Liberation Theology actually encourages a victim mentality among blacks. John McWhorters' book Losing the Race, will be helpful here. Victimology, says McWhorter, is the adoption of victimhood as the core of one's identity -- for example, like one who suffers through living in "a country and who lived in a culture controlled by rich white people." It is a subconscious, culturally inherited affirmation that life for blacks in America has been in the past and will be in the future a life of being victimized by the oppression of whites. In today's terms, it is the conviction that, 40 years after the Civil Rights Act, conditions for blacks have not substantially changed. As Wright intimates, for example, scores of black men regularly get passed over by cab drivers.

Reducing black identity to "victimhood" distorts the reality of true progress. For example, was Obama a victim of widespread racial oppression at the hand of "rich white people" before graduating from Columbia University, Harvard Law School magna cum laude, or after he acquired his estimated net worth of $1.3 million? How did "rich white people" keep Obama from succeeding? If Obama is the model of an oppressed black man, I want to be oppressed next! With my graduate school debt my net worth is literally negative $52,659.

Oh! Wow! This is one of the three articles that Glenn Beck asked Anthony Bradley to write for him! Excellent!

I can see how your argument is really bolstered when John McWhorter talks about how he didn't feel discriminated against personally, and Anthony Bradley explains that discrimination and racism don't exist, because Barack Obama is successful, so therefore the statistical evidence of discrimination and the historical record is simply hand-waved away as a "victim-hood" mentality. You know, I was saying the same thing about George Washington Carver! His success repudiates evidence of racism and discrimination in his lifetime, too!

Cone and West reference Marxism, and discuss aspects of poverty and class in relation to race, equals Black Liberation Theology is Marxist? By those standards we could get your personal hero, Martin Luther King, Jr. on as a Marxist, considering his poor people's campaign. As well, based on your stated views- an economic minority dominating and controlling the poorer majority- you're expressing views that fit in with a portion of Marx's analysis of capitalism, therefore you must be a Marxist, too!

Oh, wait, you said that Black Liberation Theology is communist and racist. Maybe Glenn Beck can ask Anthony Bradley to write some more articles, and this time he can broad-brush in communism! Feel free to show at any time how Black Liberation Theology is actually racist or is actually trying to establish

an egalitarian, classless, or stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general

-And when you're done running away from that, you can keep on running away from offering some facts to base your accusation that Van Jones is an "insane racist". Like the number or percentage of school shooters before Dec 2005 that weren't white.

[Jerome]

[Jerome]

Ad hominem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chunksmediocrites, That is all you did!

And you even made up the source in one instance to Ad Hom!

[Jerome]

I think there are many here that need a lesson in logical thought.

Shall I start a thread?

[Kael]

Says the guy who regularly links articles that only contain the point he wishes to make if you put on your 'libertarian glasses', and tried to tell us that Vatell is the one and only possible source for the definition of 'natural born' in the US Constitution?



If these things really existed I don't think one could get within a mile of you without exploding.

[chunksmediocrites]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Ad hominem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chunksmediocrites, That is all you did!

And you even made up the source in one instance to Ad Hom!

Show your work. Plug it in:
Person A makes claim X
There is something objectionable about Person A
Therefore claim X is false

And quote the section you claim I made up.

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

I think there are many here that need a lesson in logical thought.

Shall I start a thread?

Oh yes, please start a thread on logical thought and explain how that works. I'm sure you have much to explain to many. Also, you could explain how this answers any of the questions I asked about the facts you claimed to have presented regarding Van Jones being an insane racist and Black Liberation Theology being communist and racist.

[Watser?]

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Ad hominem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chunksmediocrites, That is all you did!

And you even made up the source in one instance to Ad Hom!

Let me do it again

You are a useless troll, an idiot and a liar.

There is no point in arguing with you at all. You will ignore everything anyone says and just repeat a few slogans and bumperstickers that you managed to memorise (and well done there).

Now stop wasting everyone's time and go run your imaginary corporations.

[Angakuk]

Note that what Watser? just did was in the nature of a Personal Attack, not an
Ad Hominem.

[Watser?]

Damn! Failed again!

And I tried so hard too.

[S.Vashti]

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

I think there are many here that need a lesson in logical thought.

Shall I start a thread?

YES! That would be great, I need more things to chuckle at, please. How about starting with your definition of an argument, then perhaps some discussion of propositions, then some examples of modus tollens, which you can easily just grab from your own previous statements. After that, some simple examples of fallacies would certainly be lots and lots of fun.

[Nullifidian]

Originally Posted by Chris Porter

YES! That would be great, I need more things to chuckle at, please. How about starting with your definition of an argument, then perhaps some discussion of propositions, then some examples of modus tollens, which you can easily just grab from your own previous statements. After that, some simple examples of fallacies would certainly be lots and lots of fun.

Not to mention we should really encourage him to include a discussion of symbolic logic, since he's such a mathematical expert.

[Smilin]

[Cinders]

Originally Posted by Naruto

I for one welcome our new colored overlords.

Bahahaha!

Simpsons!