LotR Mafia - Game Thread - Page 6

BrotherMan · #**126** 05-11-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by livius drusus

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Originally Posted by fragment

Keen to go rummaging through the pocketses of the lynched, are you?

Hells yeah, and even keener to break ties since you gais don't listen to me even when I'm right. Which is often. :shakeearth:

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Originally Posted by livius drusus

I'm not saying the ring snagging factor isn't an important one -- obviously if the bearer goes down, we all lose -- but it's not my primary interest in the gig. In fact, I'd prefer it if it were separate because who we elect leader is public information...

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Originally Posted by Megatron

I'm eyeballing liv for wanting to be mayor while actively denying interest in the searching of pocketses

You may want to reconsider your suspicions, Sauratron.

Nightson · #**127** 05-11-2010, 11:47 PM

unvote, vote: BrotherMan

Gonzo · #**128** 05-11-2010, 11:49 PM

Nightson how else do you expect us to scum hunt on Day 1? With blind conversation about lynch bandwagons?

Mayorship makes legit conversation. Nobody has to hint at their "power roles" and townies know better than that. Suspicious suppression of conversation is suspicious. Scum are the ones who should be worried about discussion in a game with this roster of players. Manipulations will be exposed because conversation will not stop. In fact trying to convince 15 people not to talk about something only gives them more of a reason to talk about it.

We can not let scum get this power, the more and more I ponder it's devices. This role is powerful. This ring is powerful. I wish only for an honest hobbit to obtain the powers.

Electing a mayor AND deliberately taking the action to discuss our possible canidates will give us a good reason to converse and pick up tendecies in our conversations. If we put off getting a mayor now, it will only feel more rushed later. This game is timed. I think discussing a leadship role holds the most potential for both scumhunting and for the town to get to know eachother. We have a few canidates right now, we should talk with each of them and consider their ideas. I do not want to rush or lag on this. Just keep up the conversing and flow of ideas. Day 1 is usually all about theorizing, now we have a subject of conversation. And remember always to NEVER TRUST A POLITICIAN. We must be very critical of our leader and they will have to be ready for the responsibility. Any scum taking this on is going to only be heavying the load for themselves. If any mayor abuses their powers, we hold the right to lynch their asses. Still, let's try to find one good reliable person who will last the game.

Gonzo · #**129** 05-11-2010, 11:50 PM

unvote kael :lol:

Deadlokd · #**130** 05-11-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightson

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Nightson, you wanting to stop this very fruitful discussion is really suspicious too. This is all good stuff, why stop it? Same to Megatron.

You could try reading my post wherein I say exactly why.

I did. It makes little sense. If someone does have a power role then obviously they aren't going to expose themselves on day 1. But why would that stop them accepting the Mayor's role? Because of the expected shortness of reign? Perhaps. However, there are a lot of players not campaigning for Mayor.

Nope, stopping discussion is never a good thing.

Gonzo · #**131** 05-12-2010, 12:01 AM

Why would someone running for mayor immediately wish to halt the conversation, anyway?

I would like to you to reevaluate your opinion on this and really think about the logic.

Nightson · #**132** 05-12-2010, 12:01 AM

Oh, we can't scum hunt without the mayor discussion? It seems to happen pretty well normally. In fact with the mayor discussion people aren't throwing around their votes aren't putting pressure on people.

I swear I've had this exact same conversation in a different game before. It is possible to have lines of discussion counterproductive to the town, this is one of them. It gives more valuable information to the scum then it does to us.

We do not have to discuss it, we can just stop. It's not that hard.

Nightson · #**133** 05-12-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadlokd

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Nightson, you wanting to stop this very fruitful discussion is really suspicious too. This is all good stuff, why stop it? Same to Megatron.

You could try reading my post wherein I say exactly why.

I did. It makes little sense. If someone does have a power role then obviously they aren't going to expose themselves on day 1. But why would that stop them accepting the Mayor's role? Because of the expected shortness of reign? Perhaps. However, there are a lot of players not campaigning for Mayor.

Nope, stopping discussion is never a good thing.

If any of the Wise should with this Ring overthrow the Lord of Mordor, using his own arts, he would then set himself on Sauron's throne, and yet another Dark Lord would appear. And that is another reason why the Ring should be destroyed: as long as it is in the world it will be a danger even to the Wise. For nothing is evil in the beginning. Even Sauron was not so. I fear to take the Ring to hide it. I will not take the Ring to wield it. ~Elrond

Nightson · #**134** 05-12-2010, 12:07 AM

Frodo: [holding out the Ring] Take it Gandalf!
[Gandalf backs away]
Frodo: Take it!
Gandalf: No, Frodo.
Frodo: You must take it!
Gandalf: You cannot offer me this ring!
Frodo: I'm giving it to you!
Gandalf: Don't... tempt me Frodo! I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand, Frodo. I would use this ring from a desire to do good... But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine.

Gonzo · #**135** 05-12-2010, 12:10 AM

Okay well I will not vote for you. :shrug:

What information could the scum get from it?

NOBODY SHOULD ROLE CLAIM/ HINT TO THEIR ROLE.

Otherwise, I like your idea that we still go about voting for a lynch and applying pressure.
I see the election to mayorship as the plotline to our future lynching. One thing is for sure, we should concede on our matter of buisiness and work on getting scum upmost. We only have two weeks and smart scum will be waiting it out and watch us in our distractions.

I can points to both speaking and not speaking about mayorship, but I think mayorship votes should largely be based on character as this game progresses.

A mayor open to new ideas will be the most effective. If I could I would immediately nominate Contra.

Gonzo · #**136** 05-12-2010, 12:11 AM

QUESTION!!!!

Can we NOT vote a Mayor!?!?

S.Vashti · #**137** 05-12-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by livius drusus

Only if a hobbit is lynched, of course. Why assume we'll slaughter innocents every day?

Er, because that's what the color cult did? I'm hoping the hobbits are a bit more circumspect.

BrotherMan · #**138** 05-12-2010, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightson

unvote, vote: BrotherMan

Oh, what a fantastic turn of events. You've gone from voting without reason to, let me see here, voting without reason. Unless your attempt to lynch this humble Hobbit is an answer to your fragment accusation.

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What is your clan name Hobbit Nightson? Is it Proudfoot? Because you talk like one of them. Your offer of free pipeweed, tempting though it is, is irrelevent. We can open our back doors and scoop it from the field free as we please already. And why cast your suspicion on fragment? Has fragment done you wrong somehow already? My humble Hobbit's eyes are watching you very closely, sir. I should expect a good answer for such early, unfounded, accusations. Consider yourself suspect to me, sir!

I am compassionate with your desire to focus more on opposing the Nazgul but your hew and cry to stop talking about something that is important to our Hobbiton has the sound of a ripe melon! How else are we to select one among us who would be true unless we talk, that is, make a hash of it?

Oh, bother. It seems I have missed the three o'clock with all this fuss. Perhaps extra portions at first dinner would set me right.

beyelzu · #**139** 05-12-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron

Hmm, I missed a few posts (teach me to leave the window open)

Not a bad idea, Nightson.

unvote

I'm eyeballing liv for wanting to be mayor while actively denying interest in the searching of pocketses, as well as bey for thinking anyone who wants the mantle is automatically scum.

nope. i thought i explained that i was suspicious of those people who campaigned for mayor. I also explained why.

BrotherMan · #**140** 05-12-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

QUESTION!!!!

Can we NOT vote a Mayor!?!?

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Originally Posted by Adam

I missed some questions earlier. That's what I get for posting fro my phone.

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Originally Posted by fragment

Adam, what happens if we refuse to vote?

You know, I've never actually seen this happen. I'm going to go ahead and say that, since not having a Leader could conceivably lead to an unwinnable game for the town (if you lynch the Ring bearer), you have to elect one. if you have not elected one by nightfall, I will appoint one randomly.

Deadlokd · #**141** 05-12-2010, 12:20 AM

vote Gonzo. He's being altogether too lucid.

Deadlokd · #**142** 05-12-2010, 12:21 AM

Ha, and then he posts that.

Deadlokd · #**143** 05-12-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by livius drusus

Only if a hobbit is lynched, of course. Why assume we'll slaughter innocents every day?

Er, because that's what the color cult did? I'm hoping the hobbits are a bit more circumspect.

That was a highly unusual game. There was only one scum. There'd be three or four in this game. Odds are good we'd get one soon, even without overt FUBARs.

Ensign Steve · #**144** 05-12-2010, 12:30 AM

vote: Demimonde

You are a brave hobbit to step up to this role. :tiphat:

Ensign Steve · #**145** 05-12-2010, 12:31 AM

I forgot to unmayorvote Crumb, but assume I meant to.

Nightson · #**146** 05-12-2010, 12:31 AM

You know this is probably a quicker path.

unvote, vote: Demimonde

Deadlokd · #**147** 05-12-2010, 12:52 AM

Nah, I want to talk about it some more.

livius drusus · #**148** 05-12-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by livius drusus

Only if a hobbit is lynched, of course. Why assume we'll slaughter innocents every day?

Er, because that's what the color cult did? I'm hoping the hobbits are a bit more circumspect.

I doubt slim was thinking of the color cult when he said that, and anyway he added the caveat when I asked him about it. Lynching innocents is common enough in all games, but it shouldn't be the default assumption upon which we base our calculations.

livius drusus · #**149** 05-12-2010, 01:27 AM

Demi's humble acceptance post is her third in this thread. Anybody who is genuinely concerned about the danger of the pocket-picking power going to scum is kind of nuts to vote for someone with so miniscule a paper trail, imo.

beyelzu · #**150** 05-12-2010, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightson

Oh, we can't scum hunt without the mayor discussion? It seems to happen pretty well normally. In fact with the mayor discussion people aren't throwing around their votes aren't putting pressure on people.

I swear I've had this exact same conversation in a different game before. It is possible to have lines of discussion counterproductive to the town, this is one of them. It gives more valuable information to the scum then it does to us.

We do not have to discuss it, we can just stop. It's not that hard.

Nightson is correct and I for one shou
d have known better. unvote vote demi

I am done with this conversation.