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Here's the White House press office trancript of the debates. It doesn't do justice to Bush's complete and utter stupidity.
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It's hard to convey on paper the moment when he asked for 30 more seconds, and then hemmed and hawed with a blank expression on his face for 15 of them.

Did anyone else notice that Lehrer gave Bush the extension whenever he asked for it, and sometimes when he didn't, but blew off one of Kerry's requests? There was also the time Lehrer gave Bush 30 seconds but skipped Kerry and went on to the next question.

In a country of media whores, Lehrer is a high-priced call girl.

The only reason I was able to sit through this monstrosity was I was at a debate party at a bar with at least a hundred other raucous Democrats who laughed at Bush and made all kinds of comments. Representative Betty McCollum tried to get us to sit quietly and listen but we ignored her. I don't like her much anyway, but we gotta take what we can get.
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It's hard to convey on paper the moment when he asked for 30 more seconds, and then hemmed and hawed with a blank expression on his face for 15 of them.

Did anyone else notice that Lehrer gave Bush the extension whenever he asked for it, and sometimes when he didn't, but blew off one of Kerry's requests? There was also the time Lehrer gave Bush 30 seconds but skipped Kerry and went on to the next question.
I didn't notice the brush-off, actually. To be completely honest, I spent more than a little time with my hands over my eyes, trying to fight the urge to claw my eyes out. I saw Bush fuck the extension, though. Retarded pauses were one of the salient features of his performance.

Speaking of retarded pauses, you might like to check out this nice through the looking glass article on the post-debate spin efforts.

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One of the first questions asked of Rove was whether the president's frequent pausing was a problem. Rove disputed that Bush paused because he wasn't sure what to say. "Paused for effect, is what I think," he said. Over and over again, Bush surrogates were asked about the president's demeanor. (Question for Paul Krugman: Are you still angry about the media's focus on style over substance?) Wasn't the president defensive? a reporter asked Matthew Dowd. Didn't he look confused? a reporter asked Ken Mehlman. "I think he spoke with passion," Mehlman said. Another reporter asked Bartlett, didn't the president look irritated? Tired? "I think he showed a range of emotions," Bartlett said.
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Old 10-01-2004, 05:03 PM
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I dunno, I thought Bush kicked Kerry's ass handily in the debate. I despise Bush as much as the next person, but Bush simply trounced him.

Bush is gonna win, Kerry needed the debates to pull him ahead and he failed miserably.
Thanks, dantonac...good one.

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That guy is dumber than dogshit.
Agreed. What personally worries me though (and is quite embarrassing, IMO) is that when I hear the president speak, I usually don't catch all of the "Bush-isms" on the first listen...maybe 40-50% of them. However, after seeing a clip 2 or 3 times, I end up catching them all.

Sometimes I wonder if that makes me only one and a half times more intelligent than he is. :eek:
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I am watching the debate right now. I had to work last night.
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It's hard to convey on paper the moment when he asked for 30 more seconds, and then hemmed and hawed with a blank expression on his face for 15 of them.

Did anyone else notice that Lehrer gave Bush the extension whenever he asked for it, and sometimes when he didn't, but blew off one of Kerry's requests? There was also the time Lehrer gave Bush 30 seconds but skipped Kerry and went on to the next question.
I didn't notice the brush-off, actually. To be completely honest, I spent more than a little time with my hands over my eyes, trying to fight the urge to claw my eyes out. I saw Bush fuck the extension, though. Retarded pauses were one of the salient features of his performance.
the retarded pauses are incredibly evident and I have only been watching it for a couple of minutes right now. and Bush seems confused quite often. I dont want a confused president I dont.
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One of the first questions asked of Rove was whether the president's frequent pausing was a problem. Rove disputed that Bush paused because he wasn't sure what to say. "Paused for effect, is what I think," he said. Over and over again, Bush surrogates were asked about the president's demeanor. (Question for Paul Krugman: Are you still angry about the media's focus on style over substance?) Wasn't the president defensive? a reporter asked Matthew Dowd. Didn't he look confused? a reporter asked Ken Mehlman. "I think he spoke with passion," Mehlman said. Another reporter asked Bartlett, didn't the president look irritated? Tired? "I think he showed a range of emotions," Bartlett said.
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damn, paused for effect, yeah right.
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Uh oh. Does that mean I should have put Bush is a fucking cretin in spoiler tags?
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Uh oh. Does that mean I should have put Bush is a fucking cretin in spoiler tags?
well, I might have had some preexisting knowledge about that.

sadly, if you have gone four years without realizing that Bush is a dipshit, then you probably arent going to pick up on it during the debates.

But we can hope.
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Sadly I think it's probable that Bush's intellectual simplicity and stubborn complacency are part of his appeal to the apparently quite large "unsophisticated" demographic. And I don't mean that to sound condescending, either. I just think a very large number of Americans are no more interested in or knowledgeable about political complexities than I was a few months ago, which wasn't much.

As I said on Nirvana's blog the other day Bush is definitive, meaning he has no problem at all making bold, unwavering statements on issues he seems to have no real understanding of, much less interest in. And I think it's probable that a lot of people who don't know the details of the issues themselves confuse this false bravado with genuine assurance of the rightness of his actions.

I won't be at all surprised if he's re-elected, but then again I saw the Terminator sweep California* and the very knowledgeable, intelligent Peter Camejo get 3% of the vote. So it'd be pretty hard to surprise me.


*Yeah okay so I reuse the example a lot. I told you I'm new at this. :P
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Old 10-01-2004, 08:54 PM
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Check out the Faces of Frustration vid the DP put together. :hysteric:
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Check out the Faces of Frustration vid the DP put together. :hysteric:
Hahahaha,there were a couple that were priceless, including the rapid-blinking-eye-pursed-lips thing and the one where it looks like he's trying to interupt. When I first saw that, I thought it looked like he was motioning to someone out in the audience.

BTW, I managed to catch & tape the rebroadcast of the yesterday's Daily Show this morning. :D
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Hahahaha,there were a couple that were priceless, including the rapid-blinking-eye-pursed-lips thing and the one where it looks like he's trying to interupt.
I love those weird lip things! Twenty bucks says he woke up this morning with at least 3 canker sores.

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Brilliant, was it not? Rob Cordry was particularly on his game.
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sadly, if you have gone four years without realizing that Bush is a dipshit, then you probably arent going to pick up on it during the debates.
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The Daily Show is hilarious as always, and of course they're not looking to spin Bush's abysmal performance as manly or something. It's a great relief. :relieved:
I dunno, I thought Bush kicked Kerry's ass handily in the debate. I despise Bush as much as the next person, but Bush simply trounced him.

Bush is gonna win, Kerry needed the debates to pull him ahead and he failed miserably.
No way?

All y'all, please post what your media says about it tomorrow. I know you will anyway.

Headlines here: Kerry trounces Bush. I read the headlines waved at me while I was driving home, but I didn't check which newspaper and can't find it online.

The BBC article sits on the fence, terminally balanced as ever, but their graphic shows 45% of people thinking Kerry won vs 35% thinking Bush won.
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The ABC poll also showed that 89% of Mr Kerry's supporters thought he had won, compared to only 69% of Bush supporters who thought the president dominated.
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October 1, 2004

Al-Asad air base, Iraq - The US military, which traditionally avoids meddling in politics, is expressing its views about the US presidential race in the one place where a soldier can speak his mind freely: the latrines.

Here, in graffiti, young soldiers wax philosophical - albeit crudely and with a fondness for four-letter words - about God, death, President George Bush and Democratic rival John Kerry.

And if one straw poll is to be believed on this gigantic air base in the western Iraqi desert, Kerry is due to rout Bush in the November 2 elections, after the Massachusetts senator picked up 73 votes to 58 on the bathroom wall.

The toilet wall vents a surprising amount of anger over Bush, considered by many rank-and-file a great wartime president, and heaps a mountain of cynicism on the US presence in Iraq.

Much of the bile is dedicated to denigrating Bush's home state of Texas.

"Here I sit cheeks a-flexin'. Bout to make another Texan," one rhyme reads, repeated in multiple stalls.

In black felt pen, one soldier scrawled a maxim from Plato that rings true whoever wins the November election: "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Sapa-AFP
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Old 10-02-2004, 12:15 AM
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Small video of the Daily Show, sorry, don't have the time to make another right now, I am putting a DVD together of both the debate and The Daily Show for some people at work.

The Daily Show Presidential Coverage


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The idiots of SD are split as to who th ey thought won.

God damn I hate this fucking state! :fuming:
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Wow. Graffiti is really a remarkable document of an era. Thanks for posting that exerpt, JoeP.

Scotty, you are as always, the AV :king:.
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How could you hear this and not come off thinking "This man is an idiot."?
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"In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work. You know my hardest, the hardest part of the job is to know that I committed the troops in harm's way and then do the best I can to provide comfort for the loves ones who lost a son or a daughter or husband and wife."
I am reminded of Will Farrell's Bush calling Daddy Bush whining "This president job is haaaaard."

Jay Nordlinger, Republican and Bush supporter said this of the debate:
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I thought Kerry did very, very well; and I thought Bush did poorly — much worse than he is capable of doing. Listen: If I were just a normal guy — not Joe Political Junkie — I would vote for Kerry. On the basis of that debate, I would. If I were just a normal, fairly conservative, war-supporting guy: I would vote for Kerry. On the basis of that debate.

And I promise you that no one wants this president reelected more than I. I think that he may want it less.

Let me phrase one more time what I wish to say: If I didn't know anything — were a political naïf, being introduced to the two candidates for the first time — I would vote for Kerry. Based on that infernal debate.
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Wow. Graffiti is really a remarkable document of an era. Thanks for posting that exerpt, JoeP.

Scotty, you are as always, the AV :king:.
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This is the part of the debate that Kerry is going to get screwed on.

When I first listened to it, I didn't catch the significance, because it didn't really sound like he was responding to the last point.

Ah well: Kerry's Booboo

It almost seems as if the questions are more biting towards Kerry than Bush.

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I really wish I'd seen this debate. Especially this one, as it was about foreign policy.

The thing that scares me, is that Kerry may come out top dog in the debates, but that didn't help Gore any when it came to the crunch. I'm still afraid that Bush will win, one way or the other. God, I hope I'm wrong. :(
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I will make the entire debate available, but probably only to people that PM me, as it will, at a guess, be about 400mb and I don't want that available on an open forum.

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Betty Bowers on the debates. :D
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Thanks for that liv! :hysteric:



And I swear that when I read this:

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I wondered for a moment if you were Betty Bowers.


...are you?
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