Election day 2008

[Adam]

Murtha's a douche. Not as big a douche as, say, Ted Stevens or Michelle Bachman, but a douche nonetheless.

[yguy]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

You speak more truly than you know.

[ChuckF]

I think my favorite part will be when Obama takes your money and your guns and imposes Sharia law. Or maybe Secretary of Education William Ayers. I hope he hands out condoms to your kids while teaching them evolution, if only to save your daughter a few trips to the state-funded abortion clinic that's going to open down the street.

[godfry n. glad]

Originally Posted by yguy

Jack Murtha, the most flagrantly contemptible weasel I've ever seen, has won reelection handily.

America has gone looneytunes.

Heh...there could be worse fates. Like all coming to believe as do you.

[ms_ann_thrope]

Originally Posted by MonCapitan2002

What is it about the industry that makes it onerous?

The whole operation is cruel --- the way the dogs live, the massive overbreeding resulting in "surplus" dogs, what happens to dogs when their usefulness as racers is over (average 'retirement' age is 2.5 years old)...

[ChuckF]

re: outstanding races, Kos sez:

Alaska: With 99% of precincts reported, Ted Stevens (R) leads Mark Begich (D) by 3500 votes.

There are reportedly over 60,000 absentee ballots filed, so no one has called it yet.

Georgia: Saxby Chambliss (R) leads Jim Martin (D) 50-46. However, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that over 600,000 early votes have not been counted. Martin led handily in early voting, so it's highly likely that Chambliss will end up below 50% and this will go to a runoff.

Minnesota: Norm Coleman leads by less than 600 votes now. All outstanding ballots will matter, and there's the possibility of a recount as well.

Oregon: Gordon Smith (R) leads Jeff Merkley (D) by 15,000 votes with 75% of precincts reporting. Not looking good.

My emphasis.

[ms_ann_thrope]

Originally Posted by Seven of Nine

What effect, if any, will that have on coursing clubs?

A law banning all wagering or parimutuel betting on dog racing would shut down the dog tracks, but most coursing clubs wouldn't be affected. I've actually never encountered a coursing club where any money changes hands, except for entry fees.

[ms_ann_thrope]

Stupid CA! My only consolation is that at least the parental notification for a minor's abortion didn't pass, too.

[Dingfod]

Originally Posted by Adam

Murtha's a douche. Not as big a douche as, say, Ted Stevens or Michelle Bachman, but a douche nonetheless.

That's Mr. Jack "Douche with a Bronze Star with Valor, two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry" Murtha the Marine to you, civilian.

[Nullifidian]

Originally Posted by 1Samuel8

-- or if you do not squeak by, you may have to find a non-state solution to recognizing marriages.

Better yet, you may actually become enlightened and reject the state's authority in recognizing any kind of marriage at all. You can actually lead the world towards true freedom -- but that is a long shot.

Yippie! Our inauthentic anarchist speaks up again without engaging his brain.

Here you seem to forget that in the present political context, the state's definition of marriage is the only one that matters. Anyone can 'recognize' the validity of a gay marriage, but just by saying, "Poof! Your marriage is legitimate!" doesn't actually convey any of the legally-recognized benefits of marriage, like the right to inherit as next-of-kin, the right to remain in an apartment after the death of one's partner, hospital visitation rights, the right to act on a loved one's behalf in case of incapacitation, etc.

Now, what I would like to know is how "reject[ing] the state's authority in recognizing any kind of marriage at all" is going to generate true freedom when there are freedom-denying laws like Proposition 8 on the books. Pretending a problem isn't there isn't going to lead the world to any sort of freedom, it's going to lead it to a schizophrenic break.

I'm sure that I could go away to some "authentic anarchist" hideaway like some religious ascetic, harangue real anarchists on the internet, and engage in masturbatory fantasies of how this is actually leading the world 'freedom', but I prefer engagement with the real world.

[Legs]

Who wants cake?







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[ms_ann_thrope]

[Legs]

Okay, no discount on the cupcakes.

*all the white guys look the same

[Qingdai]

Good thing they sometimes have different hair color or I would totally go home with the wrong guy.

Just as I figured, voting for Obama is not as progressive as some people hoped, looking at the discriminatory ballot measures that passed.

[Ensign Steve]

Originally Posted by Shelli

Three words, one smilie:

Aww, he really loves Georgia.

Originally Posted by wildernesse

I know I get tired of hearing how good my clients at Legal Aid have it. They just call me up to ask whether they should buy caviar or prime rib with their food stamps. I don't know why any of us work.

I was talking to a beggar friend of mine and he was talking about how in the first half of the month, he eats steak and shrimp, and in the second half of the month he begs. Because the only way to make the stamps last all month is to eat bologna sandwiches all month, and he'd rather eat "real" food, even if it means he has to beg half the time.

So, yeah, tell your friends to sign right up for that.

Oh! I forgot to quote ... who was it, CT? About the black and latino religious voters voting Yes on 8. I get that they're religious, but it's so sad to me that they would vote in favor of discrimination when they know first hand what it's like to be on the receiving end of that. Oh well.

[Ymir's blood]

Originally Posted by viscousmemories

Also apropos of nothing,

you no longer remember that phrase.

show spoiler

Originally Posted by livius drusus

It signifies the end of their relevance.

Knights in white satin,
Just now reaching the end...

[Caligulette]

Originally Posted by Ensign Steve

Oh! I forgot to quote ... who was it, CT? About the black and latino religious voters voting Yes on 8. I get that they're religious, but it's so sad to me that they would vote in favor of discrimination when they know first hand what it's like to be on the receiving end of that. Oh well.

Yes, they know what it's like to be discriminated against for being Latino or Black. But this is where identity politics comes into play, because rather than identifying as human, and thereby gaining some empathy, they are happy enough to discriminate against the "real" "other". It is a common phenomenon. We've just run out of solid "racial types" to discriminate against.

[Anastasia Beaverhausen]

He's totally feeling up Florida.

[Sock Puppet]

Originally Posted by Caligulette

Yes, they know what it's like to be discriminated against for being Latino or Black. But this is where identity politics comes into play, because rather than identifying as human, and thereby gaining some empathy, they are happy enough to discriminate against the "real" "other". It is a common phenomenon. We've just run out of solid "racial types" to discriminate against.

but we really need a sad-faced "Yeah ... that" smiley.

[Ensign Steve]

Oh, wait.

[Legs]

Originally Posted by Cynical-Chick

[Sock Puppet]

Aw, it shouldn't be too hard to make an "I love Canada" smiley; the artist just needs to be careful that the little smiley guy doesn't end up looking like he's performing oral on Nova Scotia.

[1Samuel8]

Originally Posted by Nullifidian

Here you seem to forget that in the present political context, the state's definition of marriage is the only one that matters. Anyone can 'recognize' the validity of a gay marriage, but just by saying, "Poof! Your marriage is legitimate!" doesn't actually convey any of the legally-recognized benefits of marriage, like the right to inherit as next-of-kin, the right to remain in an apartment after the death of one's partner, hospital visitation rights, the right to act on a loved one's behalf in case of incapacitation, etc.

Yup. You are a statist when it suits you.

Keep dancing with the state.

Originally Posted by Nullifidian

Now, what I would like to know is how "reject[ing] the state's authority in recognizing any kind of marriage at all" is going to generate true freedom when there are freedom-denying laws like Proposition 8 on the books.

The only "freedom" that is being denied is state recognition and the state privileges that are granted to people who are married.

Now, what I want to know is why a confused-socialist-who-pretends-to-be-an-anarchist such as you are seeks to defend state privilege to "married" people -- be they straight or gay -- discriminating against unmarried people.

[Clutch Munny]

Originally Posted by Sock Puppet

Aw, it shouldn't be too hard to make an "I love Canada" smiley; the artist just needs to be careful that the little smiley guy looks like he's performing oral on Nova Scotia.

[Qingdai]

Apparently, Nova Scotia needs some love.