LotR Mafia - Game Thread

[Megatron]

Originally Posted by BrotherMan

vote: Megatron for pretending to be Megatron Sauron.

Pretending?

[Demimonde]

Not so fast liv. Yes leader is the tie breaker, but in the OP it says "Perhaps more importantly" they search the pockets of the lynched. IIRC Nazguls had rings too, being the men doomed to die. If the role of leader discovers the allignment at death and has the job of reporting that information back to us it is even more important that they be Shire rather than liar.

So I'm going to smoke my pipe, nibble a seed cake or two, and make like an Ent before I vote for anyone. Mustn't be hasty.

[beyelzu]

Originally Posted by livius drusus

Thanks, but I don't see how there's any such thing. Since we don't have any idea who is what yet, there is no safer option. You could vote for someone who you think is an undangerous player and if they're on the wrong side they'll fuck us just as hard as the best playa evar should they get the ring.

The only way the fellowship leader's skills counts for anything is in the tie-breaker, which is why I want it.

I only trust whoever doesn't want the mayoralship. I am suspicious of Crumb, Chris and Liv for wanting to be mayor.

vote fragment

vote liv for wanting to be mayor, but fos on crumb and cp as well.

[fragment]

Nightson also wanted to be mayor. Since I asked liv, I'll also ask the rest of you who want the leadership to explain why you're so keen to have the corpse-pilfering power. Huh?

Is there any way we can wait until we have a confirmed hobbit before electing a leader? The game intro only says it's by majority vote, no time limit mentioned. Adam, what happens if we refuse to vote?

[Nightson]

Because I'll make a good mayor.

Also, we might go the whole game without a confirmed hobbit. Better question is whether we can change the mayor later.

[livius drusus]

Originally Posted by Demimonde

Not so fast liv. Yes leader is the tie breaker, but in the OP it says "Perhaps more importantly" they search the pockets of the lynched. IIRC Nazguls had rings too, being the men doomed to die. If the role of leader discovers the allignment at death and has the job of reporting that information back to us it is even more important that they be Shire rather than liar.

Doesn't everyone discover alignment at death? Unless I'm missing some subtlety of your point here, the GM posts the role in the death announcement.

I'm not saying the ring snagging factor isn't an important one -- obviously if the bearer goes down, we all lose -- but it's not my primary interest in the gig. In fact, I'd prefer it if it were separate because who we elect leader is public information, so as soon as a hobbit goes down, the odds that a known person is carrying the ring increase.

[Nightson]

Also

vote: fragment

[BrotherMan]

Hardly Hobbit-like behavior in here. I doubt all of you power grubbing Hobbitses are Proudfoots so consider yourselves under this simple Hobbit's watchful eyes - when I'm not napping after elevensies that is.

Unvote if only because there are more suspicious folk than Megasauron about, though I don't know which one of you need a good voting on, lynch or love that is.

[beyelzu]

Originally Posted by livius drusus

Doesn't everyone discover alignment at death? Unless I'm missing some subtlety of your point here, the GM posts the role in the death announcement.

I'm not saying the ring snagging factor isn't an important one -- obviously if the bearer goes down, we all lose -- but it's not my primary interest in the gig. In fact, I'd prefer it if it were separate because who we elect leader is public information, so as soon as a hobbit goes down, the odds that a known person is carrying the ring increase.

I don't know that it is that obvious that we all lose if "the bearer goes down"

That could make for one very short game.

Also, if you do think that is the case, wouldn't that be the most important part of the role?

[BrotherMan]

Originally Posted by beyelzu

I only trust whoever doesn't want the mayoralship. I am suspicious of Crumb, Chris and Liv for wanting to be mayor.

Originally Posted by fragment

Nightson also wanted to be mayor.

Curious oversight, Mr. Hobbnonymous. Would good sir care to elaborate, perhaps to throw another Nightson onto the pile?

[fragment]

Originally Posted by Nightson

Better question is whether we can change the mayor later.

Yeah, that is a good one. Also, do we re-elect if dear leader gets killed?

[Deadlokd]

So we can probably assume that a scum does not have the ring to start and that whoever is holding the ring is a hobbit on account of only hobbitses can hold the ring without going powermentalcuckoo immediately.

We could probably assume that if a Nazgul does get the ring that the game won't end (I suspect it will be a standard scum outnumber town victory condition) just that they might get some strange powers. Speculating that it could be along the lines of an extra nightkill or something.

[Megatron]

Originally Posted by Deadlokd

powermentalcuckoo

But yeah, if the scum's win condition is simply "get the ring", that would be a bit shitty, imho. One lucky shot and the game could be over after the first night.

[Megatron]

Originally Posted by beyelzu

I only trust whoever doesn't want the mayoralship. I am suspicious of Crumb, Chris and Liv for wanting to be mayor.

Whether you mean to or not, you're setting up some serious WIFOM here. I don't see anything particularly suspicious about wanting or not wanting the leader role, to be honest.

I am, however, looking at reasoning...

[slimshady2357]

Good morning!

After reading everything so far, can I just start with

Shire rather than liar

is totally awesome

Also:

Originally Posted by fragment

liv is a great scumhunter, but could be dangerous to have as leader if she turns out to be Nazgul. IMO there are a few safer options.

The first sentence makes perfect sense, the second one needs some explaining.

Originally Posted by liv

I'm not saying the ring snagging factor isn't an important one -- obviously if the bearer goes down, we all lose -- but it's not my primary interest in the gig.

How do you know that? If you're right, the scum will just kill the leader every night a Hobbit is lynched, since then they have twice the chance of getting the ring. So why would you want to be leader, given that? It doesn't make sense. :suspicous:

[slimshady2357]

How can :suspicious: not be a smiley!?



That's what I was looking for

[S.Vashti]

Originally Posted by Megatron

Whether you mean to or not, you're setting up some serious WIFOM here. I don't see anything particularly suspicious about wanting or not wanting the leader role, to be honest.

I am, however, looking at reasoning...

My reasoning is thus: I'm a newbie game player, no GM in their right mind would make me a valuable player. Thus it's unlikely I'm Gandalf or a Nazgul, but more likely a plain simple hobbit. (OK, that's how I would think if I were GM, anyway.) Also, I'm honest, but play close to the chest: re: last game of color cult. Sounds like a valuable trait in a leader hobbit.

But I don't know what WIFOM is. If it's related to hobbit leaders, that may be a disadvantage.

[slimshady2357]

Originally Posted by Chris Porter

My reasoning is thus: I'm a newbie game player, no GM in their right mind would make me a valuable player. Thus it's unlikely I'm Gandalf or a Nazgul, but more likely a plain simple hobbit. (OK, that's how I would think if I were GM, anyway.) Also, I'm honest, but play close to the chest: re: last game of color cult. Sounds like a valuable trait in a leader hobbit.

Almost always roles are assigned randomly.

[slimshady2357]

vote: Adam

What?! That scum-sucking-back-stabbing-colour-killer as our leader? NEVER!

[Nightson]

This is a public service announcement.

DO NOT HINT AT WHAT YOUR ROLE IS

Everyone in this game is either a power role, a townie or scum. If you are a power role then you don't hint at your role so that scum won't night kill you. If you are a townie, you don't hint at your role because it helps the scum narrow down who the power roles are. And scum not wanting to give away their role goes without saying.

[Nightson]

Also, everyone vote fragment because he's scum.

[fragment]

Originally Posted by slimshady2357

The first sentence makes perfect sense, the second one needs some explaining.

Safer options being people who would be less of a threat in the leader role if they happen to be scum. Some people strike me as likely to be better liars and manipulators than others.

Originally Posted by Nightson

Also, everyone vote fragment because he's scum.

Unvote; vote: Nightson

Most town post I've seen yet.

[Adam]

1. The Nazgul do not instawin if they get the Ring. They do, however, become more powerful.
2. I will post cardflips after player deaths. The leader's only post mortem function is rifling the pocketses of lynchees.
3. Role assignment was totally random.

This has been a public service announcement.

[Ensign Steve]

Oh, hai! I thought we weren't starting until today.

vote: Crumb because he's Crumb, duh.

Originally Posted by Adam

1. The Nazgul do not instawin if they get the Ring. They do, however, become more powerful.

They need to do way instawin mother>

[Adam]

I missed some questions earlier. That's what I get for posting fro my phone.

Originally Posted by fragment

Adam, what happens if we refuse to vote?

You know, I've never actually seen this happen. I'm going to go ahead and say that, since not having a Leader could conceivably lead to an unwinnable game for the town (if you lynch the Ring bearer), you have to elect one. if you have not elected one by nightfall, I will appoint one randomly.

Originally Posted by Nightson

Better question is whether we can change the mayor later.

Mayor for life. You can elect a new one if the current one dies.