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F-X, I suggest you wiki "quantitative research" and "qualitative research" then form a question.
But be sure it is blinded before you read it.
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I have no idea. But blinding isn't about preventing viewing data, it is about preventing bias.
You'd better go back and read that wiki definition again.
Will that stop the trolls?
No, but if you read the wiki entry for Troll (Internet) it might stop you from constantly using the label as a catch-all for 'people that disagree with me' instead of what it actually means.

I doubt it, but it's worth a shot, don't you think?
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I have no idea. But blinding isn't about preventing viewing data, it is about preventing bias.
You'd better go back and read that wiki definition again.
Will that stop the trolls?
No, you need to deal either fire or acid damage to stop trolls. :nochess:

I was hoping, however, that it might stop you from making obviously false assertions. Blinding, by definition, is about keeping certain information from certain participants in an experiment.

Who, in your theoretical blind studies, would be prevented from knowing what information?
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Blinding, by definition, is about keeping certain information from certain participants in an experiment.
You really should do some study before trying to bullshit. You suck at it.
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No, but if you read the wiki entry for Troll (Internet) it might stop you from constantly using the label as a catch-all for 'people that disagree with me' instead of what it actually means.
Trolls go into a topic and post something to garner attention to themselves. They don't add anything to the topic.

When trolls are in a group, just the applause from the other trolls is enough for them. They bask in their own little limelight.

It's cute.

Doesn't add a bit to science, but hell, it's fun, right?
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I don't believe you. Sorry.
So now you are reduced to stealing material?

That's sad man.
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Doesn't add a bit to science, but hell, it's fun, right?
Let's add to the science, then. How would you design a blind climate study? What information would you withhold from which participants?
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ETA: that was for F-X, not Adam-interruptus.
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Blinding, by definition, is about keeping certain information from certain participants in an experiment.
You really should do some study before trying to bullshit. You suck at it.
You might want to follow you own advice. Blinding, by definition, involves preventing some of the participants in an experiment from having access to some of the information -- if nothing else, it's about preventing those who are doing the analyses from knowing the source(s) of data being analyzed.

Hint: That's why it's called blinding.


But then, I'm only a professional scientist. What would I know about blinding?
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Blinding is about removing factors that lead to bias.
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Obviously nothing, TLR, 'cause otherwise you'd see how awesome F-X's idea of 'blinding' climate research is. Because, you know, blinding = science!
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But then, I'm only a professional scientist. What would I know about blinding?
Yeah, cause professional scientist spend all their time posting anonymously on internet shitholes.

Tell me another one oh masked man.
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I totally know who F-X thinks should be in charge of climatology:

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Oh never mind, I found it myself.

Statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So are we blinding the inferential statisticians or the descriptive statisticians?
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F-X, I tried to tell you back during the vaccine thread that we have professionals here at FF

You've called two college professors trolls here today.
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So are we blinding the inferential statisticians or the descriptive statisticians?
Ask Tonto. I hear he hangs out with a real scientist who knows things like that.
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Blinding is about removing factors that lead to bias.
By preventing some of the participants from having access to some of the data.



I'm loathe to quote Wikipedia, because it's hardly the most authoritative of sources, but: "A blind or blinded experiment is a scientific experiment where some of the persons involved are prevented from knowing certain information that might lead to conscious or unconscious bias on their part, invalidating the results."

(My emphasis.)


Should I break out some of my Experimental Design textbooks?
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You've called two college professors trolls here today.
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck ...
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But then, I'm only a professional scientist. What would I know about blinding?
Yeah, cause professional scientist spend all their time posting anonymously on internet shitholes.

Tell me another one oh masked man.
You do realize that there are people here who know who I am "in real life," and where I teach? And where/when I earned my degrees?
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