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Old 07-19-2011, 03:37 PM
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Why should Jerome even care if others fail to get a quality education. He has already failed to get his quality education.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:05 PM
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What are a citizens chances in these two examples?

Suing the President for sending your child overseas to die in an illegal war.

Suing a Corporation for polluting a river which caused the death of your child.
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I dig it, I agree that sending a child to school is the same as sending a child to an illegal war.

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That is not what I wrote.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:19 PM
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Anyway, when it comes to education, Jerome, have you thought this through?
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Would regulations require these private schools to accept and teach every student?
No, why would they?

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Could they be selective and refuse to teach a kid with learning disabilities or attention disorders?
Sure, this is done in every aspect of life.


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Would they be required to offer scholarships to those who couldn't otherwise afford to send their kids to school?
No, why would they?

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Would there be regulation of curriculum?
Of course not, otherwise what would be the point?

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How would oversight work?
The people directly funding the institution.

Students are not currently receiving a quality education.

This maybe hard for you to accept, but some people do not belong in school.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:31 AM
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Which people would those be?
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:24 PM
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Which people would those be?
If you have ever been on a college campus or in any public school you know which people exactly.
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If you have ever been on a college campus or in any public school you know which people exactly.
Aha! So it's students who do not belong in school.

Well, that's certainly one way of keeping costs down.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:29 PM
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Which people would those be?
If you have ever been on a college campus or in any public school you know which people exactly.
I've known people who did not belong in the classes they were in, but that's an entirely different matter from people who did not belong in school, period.
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If you want to learn something then you belong in school even if you are according to all testing and evidence a grade z moron. Who gets to decide who is worth educating Hitler? Ok that was slightly OTT but you get the point.
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:17 PM
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No one decides at this point, it is mandated by the State that all must be educated (floating term that changes).
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No one decides at this point, it is mandated by the State that all must be educated (floating term that changes).
Rightly so too. If you are smart or rich you can then work for a/buy a degree too. Everyone should be educated to a level where they can buy something count out change and operate a TV remote in my opinion. Which these days is about all school will teach you, except how to pass exams so that some divot in the corridors of power can pretend kids are 100% smarter than when he was at school at Eton having a hot muffin hammered up his rectum, a singular honour for all fags everywhere. And by fags I don't mean homosexuals, I mean fags, which in public school I suspect the distinction is probably fairly slim anyway. :)
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If you want to learn something then you belong in school even if you are according to all testing and evidence a grade z moron. Who gets to decide who is worth educating Hitler? Ok that was slightly OTT but you get the point.
Educating Hitler is a worthy goal, so I hope it's me who gets to decide.
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[Thanks] for the educated Hitler.
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I only found out THIS MORNING that NCLB attached Title I funding to AYP. My kid's school relies on Title I funding heavily, as do many, many schools. If they had to transfer a percentage of those funds to providing specialized programs for improving scores, it might be devastating in some schools. So, that's another enormous motivation to cheat and/or game the system.

It also means I owe my kid's principal a (conditional) apology.

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Old 08-25-2011, 10:10 PM
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My kid's school relies on Title I funding heavily, as do many, many schools.
Only because it has been institutionalized.
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Jerome is, no doubt, intimately acquainted with the consequences and conditions of institutionalization.
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Old 08-26-2011, 03:26 AM
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but the man is always trying to hold me down
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My kid's school relies on Title I funding heavily, as do many, many schools.
Only because it has been institutionalized.
What does that mean? Do you think if the whole school system was privatized, providers would bother to locate schools in poor or rural areas where they are less likely to operate at break even, let alone at a profit?
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